Talk:Hellfire Citadel (alternate universe)

Move discussion 1

Shouldn't this page be "Hellfire Citadel (alternate universe)" to stay coherent with litterally every other WoD entries? :/ Xporc (talk) 00:07, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

To me that would make sense yes. PeterWind (talk) 00:32, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Yes, but no one cares about the old one when they search for the term.--SWM2448 00:53, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

In this case I would say no, because this is a raid instance named Hellfire Citadel as opposed to the Outland one, which is really more of a lore article since it's not a single instance. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 00:54, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

"no one cares about the old one when they search for the term" Says who? It's a raid from an old extension so it's not like people interested in PVE will be checking the page for strategies, and the page is too lacking in content to be useful for them anyway... Xporc (talk) 01:16, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

IMO, all pages related to the alternate universe should have that tag for consistency regardless of a prime universe counterpart. But that's just my personal style, I understand the argument for the way it is from when it was brought up before WoD. --Aquamonkeyeg (talk) 01:47, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Move discussion 2

As mentioned above, should this be moved to Hellfire Citadel (alternate universe) for consistency sake? AU!Auchindoun has "(alternate universe)" too. --Mordecay (talk) 23:00, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm for consistency, personally. Xporc (talk) 23:08, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

I think there should be a notability exception.--SWM2448 23:09, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Vote, then? --Mordecay (talk) 12:43, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm in agreement with Sandwichman regarding notability. If there's a strong enough desire to change it, we would definitely want to put it to a vote first. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 19:26, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Bump. Would it be alright if I changed existing templates to point to Hellfire Citadel (alternate universe) instead, which redirects to Hellfire Citadel? Xporc (talk) 19:04, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Its best to keep templates directed at the page they're linking to, rather than their redirect pages. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 03:18, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Well I'm of the opinion that the page should be called Hellfire Citadel (alternate universe) to begin with :p Xporc (talk) 09:10, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Right, but until the article is moved, cause we all might decide to keep it here, its best to not change all the links to something that may not even happen. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 20:07, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Why not Hellfire Citadel (instance)? That way the main article can be preserved for lore applicable to both MU and AU. We also have e.g. Icecrown Citadel vs Icecrown Citadel (instance). - Linneris (talk) 09:20, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

The lore article should not be for both MU and AU. They are two different places that served two different purposes. They just so happen to be named the same and be at the same location in both universes. --Celellach (talk) 10:31, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Move to "alternate universe" disambiguation tag vote

I would like to see this page moved to the Hellfire Citadel (alternate universe) name, for consistency with other similar pages. I know it'd be a lot of work but I think it's worth it, and doesn't have to be done in a single day by a single person.

Votes

Yes

1. Yes Xporc (talk) 09:15, 22 August 2017 (UTC) - (Nominated)
2. Yes Celellach (talk) 10:15, 22 August 2017 (UTC) - (for naming consistency)
3. Yes MyMindWontQuiet 10:37, 22 August 2017 (UTC) - (Only makes sense, subjectivity has no place here)
4. Yes PeterWind (talk) 10:40, 22 August 2017 (UTC) - (I think I prefer consistency over notability)
5. Yes --Mordecay (talk) 10:47, 22 August 2017 (UTC) - (no comment)
6. Yes DeludedTroll (talk • contribs) 12:08, 22 August 2017 (UTC) - (While I can definitely see the argument for why this was originally handled the way it was during WoD, I think it is better and less unintuitive to go for consistency in this case. The raid isn't that much more notable than the TBC dungeon complex now that WoD is no longer the current expansion, anyway.)
7. Yes Eithris (talk) 20:26, 25 August 2017 (UTC) - (i'd also like to see "(main universe)" removed from the BC version for Ultra Maximum Consistency :p)
8. yes X59 (talk) - (no comment)
9. Yes Alayea (talk / contrib) 21:03, 26 August 2017 (UTC) - (no comment)
10. Yes — SurafbrovWarcraft Wiki administrator T / C 11:17, 30 August 2017 (UTC) - (no comment)

No

1. no Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 21:07, 26 August 2017 (UTC) - (I'm of the opinion instances/zones get the main page space over subzones or hubs.)
2. no Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:12, 26 August 2017 (UTC) - (What Coobra said.)
3. No — foxlit (talk) 21:43, 26 August 2017 (UTC) - (no comment)

Comments

If this vote doesn't pass, I'd like to see Hellfire Citadel (main universe) moved back to Hellfire Citadel (Hellfire Peninsula) as locations is always preferable to "universes" when it comes to zones/subzones. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 21:07, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Agreed. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:13, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Let's see if more people will vote then. Xporc (talk) 22:29, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Most of the links should have been updated, I'll finish them tomorrow 'cause I'm sleepy :( Xporc (talk) 20:14, 3 September 2017 (UTC)