User talk:Howbizr/Archive 1

Again, welcome! --Coobra (talk) 05:03, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

External links

Just so you know, external links always come last. (unless navigational templates are used, then they come last.) Thank you for contributing. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! ^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 05:03, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Righto! Howbizr (talk) 05:15, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Replacement reins (Brewfest)

"Replacement reins do not summon a ram, however, they are useful to prep for the non-quest mechanic ..." How so? What sort of prep are you doing? Madkaugh (talk) 17:34, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully I made that statement clear enough. I talk to the <Ram Racing Apprentice>, and he gives me the reins. Then I put them on my bar so they're ready to go. I get in max range of the <Ram Racing Master>, talk to him, and accept the mechanic. It doesn't bug out or anything - I can just use the reins I already have to start running. If you didn't do this, it seems possible there could be a small degree of latency (maybe 0.5 second) for the quest item to appear in your inventory. This way you start clicking right away!

"Hopefully I made that statement clear enough." - Your hope is in vain, obviously, since the question was asked.

"I talk to the <Ram Racing Apprentice>, and he gives me the reins." - Yes, that was already in the article, the comment you changed was about the alleged usefulness or lack thereof of those reins.

"Then I put them on my bar so they're ready to go." - OK, that was what I was asking about, the scope of the benefit of the inert reins. I agree, BTW, they are a bit useful for that. Madkaugh (talk) 01:21, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

My first significant article

Please check out Brewmaster. Any help making it more up to standards would be appreciated.Howbizr (talk) 21:17, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Are you telling yourself to check it out? =)

I guess the idea was... if someone else came to talk to me, maybe they'd see this? He he. Howbizr (talk) 12:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

But yea it looks good to me, though alliance should really come first, because A before H. Good job.

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 02:41, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Per your request for feedback;

I like the look of the page, and your information is thorough. Good job.

The sub-achievements should be fleshed out, which will be very redundant. I suspect the best approach would be transcluded sub-articles. Haven't messed with those myself. Madkaugh (talk) 20:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Residue of Darkness

It's not an ability, thus doesn't need the {{Infobox ability}} template. g0urra[T҂C] 22:15, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

RE: Which Editor

Photoshop CS 2.0. g0urra[T҂C] 12:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Icons

Please don't worry about the icons, most if not all are there. Use the Search Wowpedia if you must, but please don't worry about having to upload any. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! ^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 02:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Well the search page I linked works wonders. Just uncheck the main checkbox and check the image checkbox and search away, it doesn't care if the image uses lower or upper case. But a good rule of thumb is that every new word is capped.

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 19:44, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

RE: Horde Icon / Alliance Icon Template

See {{Horde}} and {{Alliance}}. g0urra[T҂C] 20:04, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Achievement Tooltip

I like it, but put it up on a more public forum for comment, like Village pump. Madkaugh (talk) 04:02, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Project:CAT

Please review Project:CAT in regards to category naming before creating any more categories. Thank you. --Pcj (TDrop me a line!•C207,729 contributions and counting) 13:05, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Brewmaster

Yeah, they're seperate achievements, but I think it'd be best if we just outlined the differences as I have in the brewfest article. I think it'd be eaiser for the readers that way. Mckaysalisbury (talk) 17:40, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Project:MOS

When editing pages, pay heed to that page. Specifically, section headers should be in sentence case and not completely in capitals. Thanks. --Sky (t · c · w) 00:29, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I realized I didn't quite phrase it correctly. You've been making pages that say "See Also" and "External Links", when they should be "See also" and "External links". Other section headers should follow the same rules, unless the word is a proper noun, such as a header titled "Beginning of Thrall's existence". --Sky (t · c · w) 15:46, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

No, title case or some other form of it was probably what I was looking for. :P --Sky (t · c · w) 15:57, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Achievement cases

I think you misunderstood me in that only the Feats of Strength achievement category should be cased like that, and not the PvP or world event categories. Personally I'd keep it like "Category:Player vs. player achievements" and "Category:World event achievements". g0urra[T҂C] 03:07, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

"Small" letter icons

The images you uploaded are too big. See the article's description to see why. g0urra[T҂C] 12:02, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Template:Rare et al.

You remade them based on the idea that they should have separate ones a la the reputation ones, and then got told to use quality. Something I've been looking to do (other then the fact I have no time these days) is to consolidate the reputation ones into a Template:Rep or Template:Reputation (probably the former). What say you? --Sky (t · c · w) 16:32, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Heh, it's basically a copy paste of quality so far as I'm concerned, without the need for bolding the text. Feel free to do so. --Sky (t · c · w) 17:05, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Um, Sky, Howbizr? Since we HAD the separate rep level templates, what was the advantage in consolidating them at that point? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 17:45, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what you're asking... --Sky (t · c · w) 19:49, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you.

Not sure what the general policy is for replying to posts on one's talk page, but thanks for welcoming me. This'd be the first wiki that I actually hope to make contributions to. -- Michaeljustman (talk) 16:31, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

3.0.8 Wintergrasp trinkets

Wowhead's version is outdated. There's no point in giving the trinkets the stats they have now, since it will soon be fixed. g0urra[T҂C] 16:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

The trinkets as they are now are not even attainable, so there is no noticeable difference either way we update it or not. However, as the items aren't even on the live servers right now, there's no point in keeping the old stats.

The updates on existing items should be applies one or two days before the patch, so that it doesn't make that much of a difference once people look up the information. g0urra[T҂C] 20:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Icons to cleanup

Hey, could you go back through Category:Icons to clean up and add reasons. {{Cleanup-icon}} is going to be used for them, so reasons can be added and not just a category. Thank you, Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! ^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 22:13, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Trophy Fish

You added a tag that the Trophy Fish article has out of date information, but your Edit Summary had no rationale. What did you see that is out of date? Madkaugh (talk) 02:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

"Reason: Baby coralshell turtle and the trophy swordfish were in the beta but were not released to live. There might be other discrepancies." - Those two were indicated by the achievement, but no one had seen them. I'll comment them out, and check the achievement. If the achievement still mentions them, I'll make a note that they are not currently in the game; if they've been dropped from the achievement, I'll delete them. Madkaugh (talk) 22:44, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I removed the Swordfish and Coralshell Turtle. The achievement has been amended and they are not mentioned. Madkaugh (talk) 23:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

The only other new item is the [Dark Herring], and that is listed on the Armory. Madkaugh (talk) 23:32, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

welcome!

What the hell man, i've been on the site for 3 years. A bit late to be posting a welcome message now don't you think? o_O Zurgat (talk) 08:26, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

No worries, no offence. But i figured you would at least check contribution history or such first ;) I like to keep my talk page clean of old conversations, so I tend to delete them after a while. - Zurgat talk / cont 09:25, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Welcome : (11:29, 7 December 2005 Wowpedia-SilverSide (Talk | contribs) (undo)) Trying to get the old account merged though - Zurgat talk / cont 09:32, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

RE:Chef de Cuisine

Then there must still be an error with the achievement window. Got the achievement and still had Fish feast and Dirge's chimaerok chops to get. And yeah, Been on here for a little over 2 years but haven't really added stuff or helped to fix things until a few months ago. SDK (talk) 21:56, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Pets and Mounts in 3.1.0

I did have a reference tag stating "Taken from MMO-Champion. <ref name=`mmo-ptr`>MMO-Champion (24-02-2009). PTR 3.0.1 - Patch Notes. Retrieved on February 24 2009.</ref>". Hans Kamp removed the tag when he/she put the Mounts / Pets under Items.

Here is a link to the change Patch_3.1.0 (undocumented_changes) -- ( Morph | Contribs | Talk ) 18:16, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Come to find out since most ( if not all ) of this page came from MMO Champion - Hans Kamp Made the link a External Link at the bottom of the page, so should I still make individual reference tags? or leave it as it is? -- ( Morph | Contribs | Talk ) 19:35, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

New items/abilities

For anything that's appearing or changing for the next upcoming patch (no matter which patch at the time), just use {{Stub/PTR|<patch number>}}. Only use {{NYI}} for articles that are not on the PTR or planned for the upcoming patch. In otherwords, they shouldn't be used together... it makes it redundant. Thank you, Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! ^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 21:47, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Field Duty

I have altered the Vote description on Field Duty to better reflect what I intended. Unsure of protocol in this situation, in lieu of wiping the voting box, I am asking each current voter to consider whether his/her vote reflects the new description. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 22:56, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for verifying your vote. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 00:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Response to "What would make a good home..."

See User_talk:Fandyllic#What_would_make_a_good_home.... -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5:29 PM PST 5 Mar 2009

Aquatic Mount

Well the spell exists on wowhead PTR right now: http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=62087 Yep Gourra is my arch-enemy now =P -- 08:57, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

It's still datamined, so don't put anything about the mount on Wowpedia yet... --g0urra[T҂C] 09:49, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I guess I need to remove the information I had put on the Mount page back on February 28_th? - before it was declared Datamined (the same source as other information decalared Proven like the other mounts and professions and glyphs now listed) from MMO-Champion. -- ( Morph | Contribs | Talk ) 17:43, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

*cough* Talk:Mount#Aquatic Mount!! *cough*

^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 22:17, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Category:Faction_achievements_that_might_need_renamed

Hi. I saw you created the above mentioned category, but shouldn't the faction be capitalized in the Achievements since "Alliance" and "Horde" are proper nouns? --Wige (Talk - Contribs) 16:49, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I know what you mean about the frustration. When I started creating pages for quests, I found that if I copied the boilerplate someone would edit the article to match other quests in the zone. If I copied the template of other quests in the zone, someone else would edit it to match the boilerplate. As far as this issue though, I have not seen anywhere else where "Horde" and "Alliance" are not capitalized, so I marked the category for deletion. Hope you don't mind, at least it gets it off the todo list, and maybe will prevent confusion if a new editor sees it and starts renaming everything. --Wige (Talk - Contribs) 19:26, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

There are categories for Horde-only and Alliance-only achievements, which the page is put into automatically when the tooltip is created. On those pages, all of the parenthesis have the faction capitalized. To me, this was just another indication that the change wasn't warranted. See http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Alliance-only_achievements. There are less than might be expected, because a lot of them are similar enough to share a page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wige (talk · contr).

"formulas" pages

Please work to remove them, not add more. It would be appreciated if you merged "Formulas:Diminishing returns" into diminishing returns. Thanks! --Sky (t · c · w) 18:26, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

It isn't a namespace... which is why it needs removing. And it splits information, just as you did. :P Unless they would make the page excessively heavy, all the technical info should be on the same page as the general information. I figured since you made the page, you would be best to merge it because you know a bit more than me. --Sky (t · c · w) 23:09, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Dual-Spec news

Thanks for the update. They should have never announced the level minimum, if they knew they were going to change it. Also, if Blizzard would have thought for even a second how annoying it would be for players who hadn't upgraded to , they would have at least made dual-speccing available to level 70s. I'm glad they came to their senses. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 8:30 AM PST 13 Mar 2009

Ring and Hearthstones on seperate cooldowns

-- ( Morph | Contribs | Talk ) 18:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

The Rings are on a seperate cooldown from the Hearthstone - I can Hearth and immideatly use my Ring to get to Dalaran. (then have to wait 30 minutes to repeat - since both cooldowns are then used up). -- ( Morph | Contribs | Talk ) 18:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Relocation of the {{Stub/PTR|<3.1.0>}} template on the Dungeons & Raids achievement pages

I am curious as to why you moved the template from the seperate table within the pages to the main page? I only did it the way I did it was because the whole section was not a ptr change ( just what i put in the new table ) - and since they are on Ptr they are subject to change (for instance in this new build 9722 in the Secrets of Ulduar Raid and Secrets of Heroic Ulduar Raid ( they are removing 10 of the achievements ((5 normal and 5 heroics)) which were just added in 9704) -- but are adding 10 new ones in their place ((5 normal and 5 heroics)) - and they are changeing the name of 2 of then ((1 normal and 1 heroic)) - so I was keeping them seperate for that reason too -- (<span="help title=Morph>M o r p h | <span="help title=Morph_Contribution(s)_to_this_Wiki>^C | <span="help title=Morph_Discussion_Page>_T) 05:18, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I have not made those new achievement changes - we had some storms come thru texas and lost DSL untill just a few minutes ago - so I just logged in to see changes - will do my changes tomorrow - if weather does not interfere again - (<span="help title=Morph>M o r p h | <span="help title=Morph_Contribution(s)_to_this_Wiki>^C | <span="help title=Morph_Discussion_Page>_T)

05:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

changes to Dungeons & Raids achievement

Umm the name of the groups are called Secrets of Ulduarr Raid and Secrets of Ulduar Heroic Raid on the PTR server - that is where I got the names for those groups from - so I would like to keep them that way since that is [Blizzard]'s name for them -- as to the achievement Moma said Knock You Out I left the original in the upper table - because that is what the text says it is ( right now on the Live servers ) but in Path 3.1.0 the text will change to the way I had it in the lower table that had the {{Stub/PTR|<3.1.0>}} tag on it -- it will change in 3.1.0 so I left the same number so that we could easily copy / paste the information over the OLD information with ease -- (<span="help title=Morph>M o r p h | <span="help title=Morph_Contribution(s)_to_this_Wiki>^C | <span="help title=Morph_Discussion_Page>_T) 21:57, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I had it duplicated because there technialy is 2 versions of that achievement

Momma Said Knock You Out ( The Live Version ) and the (PTR version) that is changing some of the TEXT - That is why why I had them the same number ( so coudl copy the NEW verison over the OLD version when 3.1.0 came out) also if you had read the new version (it still says it on the achievement table (( but not on the mouseover )) In Patch 3.1.0 the text will change to: New Text ) -- but it is ok the way it is now because

[Blizzard] has moved all those NEW achievements (not the one that is changing text) from Lich King Raid to the Secrets of Ulduar Raid -- Heroic versions moved to Secrets of Ulduar Heroic Raid -- (<span="help title=Morph>M o r p h | <span="help title=Morph_Contribution(s)_to_this_Wiki>^C | <span="help title=Morph_Discussion_Page>_T)

22:21, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

On a side note - you made those new achievement pages into (/Subpages) and Sky does not want that -- that is why I had went and moved them all to their new names ( no subpage ) Dungeons & Raid achievements (General) used to be Dungeons and Raids achievements/General -- (<span="help title=Morph>M o r p h | <span="help title=Morph_Contribution(s)_to_this_Wiki>^C | <span="help title=Morph_Discussion_Page>_T)

22:21, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I did have the Secrets of Ulduar (with the PTR stub on it ( because they were only on the PTR -- the ones I orinigaly was aking about is when you Removd the Stubs from and combined the tables on Lich King Raid and Lich King Heroic Raids ( that Tag the way I had it ) Seperated the Current achievements from the PTR changes / Additions - you made them Mixed up -- but now it is ok becaus the NEW ones are gone / moved to Secrets of Uldurar Raids now - with the new build 9722 -- (<span="help title=Morph>M o r p h | <span="help title=Morph_Contribution(s)_to_this_Wiki>^C | <span="help title=Morph_Discussion_Page>_T)

22:24, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I was saying this:

You were the one that merged the old / new achievements together on Dungeons & Raids achievements (Lich King Raid) and Dungeons & Raids achievements (Lich King Heroic Raid) when you removed the {{Stub/PTR|<3.1.0>}} tags seperateing the 2 sets of achievements (Live Version and PTR version)
There are 2 verions of the Momma Said Knock You Out - the one I left in the top table list is the current LIVE verion of that achievement - the one I put in the lower table (below the PTR stub -- was what the achievement was changing to in Patch 3.1.0 and it had the text In Patch 3.1.0 the text will change to: New Text -- I left the same number on the new version so that when patch 3.1.0 came out we could (copy / past ) over the old achievement with the new achievement with ease - like you already did prematurely - but that is ok because of the new changes from build 9722
Build 9722 moved all of the new achievement from the Dungeons & Raids achievements (Lich King Raid) and Dungeons & Raids achievements (Lich King Heroic Raid) pages to the new sectons Dungeons & Raids achievements (Secrets of Ulduar Raid) and Dungeons & Raids achievements (Secrets of Ulduar Heroic Raid) - so I removed teh {{Stub/PTR|<3.1.0>}} from the Old locations and had always had that tag on the NEW sections.
You did a no no when you renamed the new sections as / sub pages! -- Sky does not want sub pages -- that is why I had went and Renames all the subpages and had changes all the links that went to them -- from Dungeons & Raids achievement/General to Dungeons & Raids achievements (General) I did that on every subpage of Dungeons & Raids achievemnts

That is all I was trying to reply to you as you left me replies -- (<span="help title=Morph>M o r p h | <span="help title=Morph_Contribution(s)_to_this_Wiki>^C | <span="help title=Morph_Discussion_Page>_T)

22:52, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Our Daily Bread

You owe that fix to Kaydeethree she is the one that told me how to fix it when multiple pages were using same name -- the achievement box has to have the paramater |disambigpage= -- someone put |disambig= -- (<span="help title=Morph>M o r p h | <span="help title=Morph_Contribution(s)_to_this_Wiki>^C | <span="help title=Morph_Discussion_Page>_T) 22:33, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

kd3 is a he... but you never know... haven't heard a voice yet.

--

Fandyllic (talk · contr) 2:00 PM PST 10 Apr 2009

James isn't what I'd call a "girly" name. --Pcj (T•C) 21:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Template history

Heres the code to User Jenkins:

Let's do this!

This user has braved the Rookery and earned the title of Jenkins! Leeeeeeeroy...

and for the ambassador, if you would

This user has attained the title of Ambassador.

It will look easier to read, in if you hit edit, btw. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 21:47, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

This user has attained the title of
Hand of A'dal.

This user has earned the title Challenger in Arena battles.

This user has attained the rank of Conqueror for the Horde.

This user's character is exalted with Timbermaw Hold, the Sporeggar and the Kurenai.

This user has attained the title of Guardian of Cenarius.

This user has attained the rank of Justicar for the Alliance.

This user has attained the title of Champion of the Naaru.

This user has attained the title
of the Shattered Sun.

There ya go. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 23:42, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

This user earned the title Private in the old PvP title system.

Found this one too, although kd3 didn't delete it. -Howbizr (talk) 00:01, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

let me know when you finish with everything and I'll delete it, or just put a speedydelete tag on it if I'm not around.

(^Sssss/_Slithered) 00:04, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Self Reference

I did that reference along time ago -- but the reason I did it at that time - was because I did see it 1^st hand on the PTR server and did not get the information from MMO-Champion or World Of Raids or any site at all ( I was pointing out if you log into the PTR you would see it to ) meaning it was definitely not Datamined and such - but again that was done along time ago - that 1 time - I have not posted a self reference since then when someone else changed the links and said not to ( back then ) -- (<span="help title=Morph>M o r p h | <span="help title=Morph_Contribution(s)_to_this_Wiki>^C | <span="help title=Morph_Discussion_Page>_T) 16:29, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Northrend Gems

Wondering if you have any ideas how to make the Northrend gems table more friendly, or perhaps alternatives to that table that would be useful? I only looked at it after you brought it up, myself.

Perhaps a set of (smaller) tables/lists, per attribute? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:19, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, it gets worse. Apparently there were pages for "Yellow Gems", "Red Gems" etc that in some cases had Northrend gems added to them, and in others became redirects to "Outland xxx Gems"... --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 20:34, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm not a hardcore jeweler, I'm a hardcore engineer. So what I was thinking was pages along the lines of [[Outland red gems]] for both Outland and Wrath. Then combine them into pages like Outland gems, Yellow gems etc. Make the low lying tables the only part that transcludes, and you can slap different section headers up as desired.

This gives a set of useful pages for {{gems}}, as well. Retain the Northrend gem table for those who want it. I counted about 100 different Uncommon, and 100 other perfect uncommon, northrend gems alone. That's a powerful lot of gems to display in any fashion at all. So at that point, I am forced to yield the field to people with a greater interest in the result.

Would a table sortable by attribute (intellect, spirit, parry, etc) be useful?

And... the colored background doesn't do it for me. The color is too subtle to be seen without a lot of effort. ... Which kinda makes it less useful, dontchathink. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 20:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

How many patterns are world drops?" - Jewelcrafting recipes

Strength gems Spirit gems Defense gems and... in writing this reply, I have found myself drawn into "repairing" the highly broken system of gem pages, curse you! :) I'll avoid (as long as I can) doing any actual redesigning... --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 21:16, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Stat category gems - it is, though, what you wished for. I'm going to corral all those into some subcategory of the WoW gems category (got a good name), leaving only Gems by color and Gems by attribute in the main category. Whatcha think? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 21:23, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

What you're looking for is a template along the lines of what is at the top of Gems by color, yes? I was thinking specifically that Category:World of Warcraft jewelcrafting crafted gem items had a very large number of sorting pages... btw, what I mentioned above, Gems by attribute would have to be cut down to some subset... transcluding ALL the 'attribute gem' pages would create a monster. ... and that's with ALL the 'attribute gem' pages currently in need of updating to include northrend gems. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 21:37, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Is Guide to obtaining every engineering recipe a useful format in your opinion? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 21:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Salt Shaker

I'm pretty sure the [Salt Shaker] cooldown was 72 hours minus 2 hours when I looked just before Patch 3.1.0. But there's conflicting information at [1]. It may be that the cooldown was reduced from 3 to 2 days in Patch 2.4.2 and the flavor text wasn't updated to match.

While engineers make it, leatherworkers use it, and the cooldown was actually on the LW, not the device. So it was reasonable to leave one in one's guild's vault, for community use at any time. (That's still a good use of bag space, since the device is not soulbound.) -- ScratchMonkey (talk) 20:42, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

RE: Been discussed that the first rank is linked.

So you just followed what Fandyllic said, ignoring "for simplicity, just link the first rank" and "rank 1 should probably be the linked one"? --g0urra[T҂C] 18:22, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay to nominate you for adminship?

I'm planning to nominate you for adminship, but I will hold off, if you're not okay with it. I added commented out nomination text under Project:Requests_for_adminship#Nominations, if you want to take a look. --Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 10:13 AM PST 27 May 2009

Okay, the nomination is in. Please add any additional qualities you think are positives and that you accept the nomination. I will advertise this on the forums (Forum:Wowpedia general?) later today. --

Fandyllic (talk · contr) 3:52 PM PST 27 May 2009

Bornak?

Who is this Bornak on MMO-Champion? Are his comments those from the development team? Are those notes on the official WoW forums? Having not heard of MMO-Champion before, I'm a bit reluctant to rely on it as a reference source for hotfix info links, should an officially maintained source be available. The info is detailed enough that I do not doubt it's accuracy; I'm just a belt-and-suspenders kind of guy. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:28, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Bornakk. MMO Champion. --Pcj (T•C) 18:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Discovered Bornakk on my own, but thank you nonetheless. Still on MMO Champion: does Bornakk's information appear on the official WoW forums (as well as on MMO Champion)? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 19:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not really sure what you are referring to, but MMO Champion is basically a blue post/WoW news aggregation site. So it probably quoted something Bornakk said on the WoW forums. --Pcj (T•C) 19:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes,Bornakk is a Blizzard poster on the forums. MMO Champion lists all the blue post on their site as well ( basicaly is blue tracker feature before Blizzard iniated their blue tracking feature on the forums.) If you look at MMO Champion carefully you will see other Blizzard posters on there as well. -- (<span="help title=Morph>M o r p h | <span="help title=Morph_Contribution(s)_to_this_Wiki>^C | <span="help title=Morph_Discussion_Page>_T)

22:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Took Howbizr's explanation for "why use MMO Champion for a reference" and added it to the MMO Champion page. Best have the explanation somewhere useful (as well as "under my nose"), eh? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 20:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Wowpedia AddOn updater

You're a Java developer? Have you seen Forum:Wowpedia AddOn Updater? It would require coding in Java, so I'd like to hear your perspective, if you care to provide it. Thanks! --Pcj (TDrop me a line!•C207,729 contributions and counting) 23:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't think Kirkburn has the expertise to do it, but obviously someone at Wikia would probably have to be involved (for ad placement and such). I have a mediocre amount of Java experience, but as you noticed the documentation isn't very clear. Right now we are trying to figure out exactly what is required to implement it. --Pcj (T•C) 16:06, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

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