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Forsaken
Coobra if your around would you mind steping in before a full fledged edit war gets started.Warthok Talk Contribs 05:34, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough. I do apologize for starting a ruckus.
Pyrolight (talk) 06:02, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
Template:Award
"contested"? How so, as it seems to have been abandoned some time around the summer 2007? TherasTaneel (talk) 22:55, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
- TherasTaneel, you said yourself "perphaps a forum discussion about if it is needed before deletion".[1] So I made Forum:WoWWiki Mark of Honor.--SWM2448 23:05, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
- oh righty, didn't notice that at all, thought there wern't any discussion taken place. Goodie. TherasTaneel (talk) 23:16, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
Warlock PvP guide
Hi, dunno if something else should be done, but Giveblood (talk · contr) changed the paladin-section of the guide with "Palidins can be your worst nightmare." which I changed back a while ago. Is it considered vandalism and should be reported somewhere? TherasTaneel (talk) 16:48, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
- If he does it again, go ahead and place him on Project:Violations, otherwise don't be too concerned.
(Sssss/Slithered) 18:24, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
How to find NPCs that respond to emotes.
Hi. I am currently very interested in finding NPCs who can reply to a player's emote. I saw that you added emotes for Rarthein so I got curious: did you figure this out by chance? Do you know if there are any listings or WoW-data one could browse through on that matter? It is very time-consuming (and annoying to the other players ;)) to test every NPC in Azeroth. *sigh* Warm greetings, --Daiyun (talk) 19:28, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
I should be fine for the most part, I know my way around wikis quite well. though, if I have a question I'll ask you ^^ DBreezy 20:15, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
Tier 9 item (pieces) renames
I noticed you were renaming the Triumphant item sets from __ of Triumph (245) to __ of Triumph (overriding the {{Disambig}} page and renaming the __of Triumph (258) to __ of Triumph (heroic) - that is fine ( you are just DOUBLE working yourself ) but what are you going to do when you get to the Windrunner sets (look at 
[Windrunner's Handguards of Conquest] and [Windrunner's Handguards of Triumph] (both Alliance and horde sets are the same name for each piece of the 5 piece set including the 245 and 258 items items) -- (M o r p h | C | T) 
23:23, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
- P.S. I made a {{Disambig}} page for every piece in every set already except for the RED-linked sets (34 sets with 5 triumphant pieces and 5 Totally each that you will have to redo less the ones you have already done) -- (M o r p h | C | T) 23:32, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
- I somehow missed that forum and did this as you can see. -- (M o r p h | C | T) 01:03, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
- I had already Finnished all of the disambig pages by this time/date of the Decision.
- Look from 13:57, September 5, 2009 (hist) (diff) N Totally Triumphant Thrall's Garb down thru September 3 -- (M o r p h | C | T) 01:08, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
- I somehow missed that forum and did this as you can see. -- (M o r p h | C | T)
- I think the mass creation is what got Dark T Zeratul's attention, which is why he said something in the forums... I meanwhile was trying to avoid the new gear pages cause of how annoying they were going to be. So I'm sure it can all be fixed eventually... think I'll pass it along to Pcj =P (Sssss/Slithered) 01:13, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
- I think the mass creation is what got Dark T Zeratul's attention, which is why he said something in the forums... I meanwhile was trying to avoid the new gear pages cause of how annoying they were going to be. So I'm sure it can all be fixed eventually... think I'll pass it along to Pcj =P
A Great Deed
Hello, Coobra, hopefully you're having fun in patch 3.2!
- I know I haven't really talked to you, except to pester you about your High Elven characters; but from what I've seen around the wiki you're quite a kind man. My account expired August 12th, 2009 and school will keep me from it for quite awhile. However, I left quite a few friends behind and some loose ends to tie up. If you have a character on Zangarmarsh US, or would be most kind enough to create one, I beg you if at all possible you could act as a "mouth piece" to tell my friends one final goodbye; or at least until the endless stream of homework lets up; which might be Christimas, might be never.
Mr.X8 Talk Contribs 00:04, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
Trouble updating a page
Hi, I was just trying to update 
[Golden Scale Cuirass], as it now gives a Stamina bonus instead of a Spirit bonus since patch 3.1; but every time I do, the stat box disappears and I get this message "Invalid tag extension name: onlyinclude" in red lettering on the left side of the screen. Could you tell me what's wrong? DacianWarlord (talk) 00:36, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
Coobra, the error message Invalid tag extension name: onlyinclude is not specific to any template nor to any wiki (it is a wikia problem). The most common fix is to edit the page again and put a space after the <onlyinclude> or before the </onlyinclude> tags. This normally will fix the problem, but every now and then you might have to edit the page and add a space somewhere else (between the tags for some reason) and it will then fix itself.
- We have a forum on this error Forum:Invalid tag extension name: onlyinclude.
- Wikia also has a forum on it here w:Forum:Invalid tag extension name: noinclude.
-- (M o r p h | C | T) 01:02, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
Snowfall Ink
Unless otherwise stated, the 
[Snowfall Ink] page is like totally messed up.
On the Snowfall Ink page has something that says "Template: Item Loop..." error... etc.
It has some text from the 
[Darkmoon Card of the North] like in it.
Need analysis as soon as possible.
Frostworn1822 (talk·contr·achievements) 04:52, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
- It's cause you removed the <onlyinclude></onlyinclude> tags in your overhaul. (Sssss/Slithered) 05:07, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for cooperating
Just want to say thanks for your cooperation on adding the tribes of the yetis. I wonder that most articles that are race-based should have some or most tribes or clans. Jlog3000 (talk) 13:09, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
Level 80
Enough quests are "level 80, level 10 required" or the like that I think we should invent an "any" category (ie Category:Quests at any level). Holiday quests, for the most part. What do you think? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 19:12, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
- All the seasonal quests lack a true level, since anyone can basically do them, unless it has a required level. So while they appear in the subcats of the Seasonal quests category I think we should just leave the level parameter blank, unless it has an actual level. (Sssss/Slithered) 19:56, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
Improperly formatted tooltip
"The target item's page does not have a properly formatted tooltip." Don't know what it means, but it's on 
[Prismatic Shell]. hmm and then there is the above Frostworn1822 which make the rest of the talk page appear boxed. TherasTaneel (talk) 20:03, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
[Canvas Scraps] show the same error. TherasTaneel (talk) 18:03, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
Libram fix
What did you do? It looks identical to me. 
Howbizr(t·c) 10:21 PM, 8 Sep 2009 (EDT)
Removing my videos
Why are you removing my videos on how to farm mounts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thebombio (talk · contr).
Yo
Can't you move the Phoenix Rising article I did to Silly? If not, why not ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Deadite88 (talk · contr).
- Yo, sign your posts. It's a personal article about some guild no doubt about it. "I did to Silly" I'm not even sure what that means. (Sssss/Slithered) 05:56, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that would be it, sorry. I'm a newb with Wiki code. Also, no it's not a personal article aimed at anyone. There are multiple guilds on many servers all called Phoenix Rising. I see the name on a lot of servers, and wanted to start a meme about it. - Deadite88 at 5:17PM on September 14, 2009 (EST)
- There's multiple servers with Space Balls the Guild, doesn't mean they get an article either. (Sssss/Slithered) 21:20, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
Alright. Nevermind, then. -Deadite88 at 5:24PM on September 14, 2009 (EST)
Loop of the Twin Val'kyr
I come so close to forgiving you on putting a 'for' link on 
[Loop of the Twin Val'kyr]. You were so very close to unstubbing that page... --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 16:27, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
Took a closer look at your change, and I think it's unstable, actually. I could only hope that we don't suffer an item-naming quake... Did you create a corresponding "nonheroic"? If not, what counterpart did you envision for the heroic item's 'for' link? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 16:42, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
- I've put that 'for' link on hundreds of pages, it was decided that normal gear gets the main name, whereas heroic gear gets the (heroic) added on. Would you rather no 'for' link to the heroic version? When people type in the gear they're actually looking for they'll get the normal version and then have the option to view the heroic one from there, so a normal 'for' link isn't needed... whats to look at my change? I added
{{Heroic}}nothing more. Everything looks stable to me, the page isn't falling apart is it... and not sure what you mean by so close to unstubbing that page, there's no information there and I didn't plan to fill out the information cross the hundreds of pages I mass added for this template. (Sssss/Slithered) 19:37, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
- 'Hundreds' of items? Perhaps, but I estimate 'only' a few score for that one encounter... Perhaps there were other encounters you were adding them for. "Unstable" in only two regards: if we change nomenclature, you have to... er... okay, only change the template in addition to moving the pages. But I suggest that ignoring the "normal" 'for' link is not as responsible as you suggest. You can get to the 'heroic' versions of these items easily enough via your new loot tables. It's a disambig link; all of the ambiguous pages are equally affected, as it were.
- The only "you should probably change the template even so" issue is how generic the template's name is vs how specific a function the template provides. There are other things 'heroic' applies to, and if we make templates for them, 'heroic' will be the odd duck out. Still, it's a highly useful template, and I'm glad it (or its ilk) is around. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 19:52, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
- Because it's not just that one encounter. The entire dungeon has both a normal and a heroic mode. All loot dropped in the heroic mode is identical in name and appearance to the loot from normal mode, except with better stats and "heroic" in the tooltip. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 19:54, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
- The only "you should probably change the template even so" issue is how generic the template's name is vs how specific a function the template provides. There are other things 'heroic' applies to, and if we make templates for them, 'heroic' will be the odd duck out. Still, it's a highly useful template, and I'm glad it (or its ilk) is around. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 19:52, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
And yes, I would say hundreds [2], I personally added them to all of those pages, and there's still plenty more 'normal' ones unmade to add them too. (Sssss/Slithered) 20:01, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
- Ah. I must have miscounted. :) --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 21:08, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
- Liked my image of Clintar's spirit? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 21:26, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
Some of the pictures you did
Particularly the one of the CSA Farsight - the modified sails and the docking in Valiance Keep. How in the world (of Warcraft!) did you do that...and are you open to requests? *grin* --Joshmaul (talk) 04:32, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
- Through the model viewer some personal screenshots and photoshop... also an annoyingly amount of time lol... but I did all that while I had windows XP... vista doesn't seem to like the model viewer so... making nice things is out of the question for me at the moment.
Also one of the reasons I abandoned that fanfic, I'm lucky to be able to make a few race icons with the way WMV has been acting up on me. But I'm glad you liked it, (Sssss/Slithered) 05:12, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
Re: Coliseum
But "Coliseum" doesn't describe which instance you cleared. Coliseum can refer to a 5 player, 5 player heroic, 10 player, 10 player heroic, 25 player, or 25 heroic - it's all of them and none of them. "10 player Trial of the Crusader" is what is the instance name in the LFG interface. That's why I went for something specific. Howbizr(t·c) 7:39 PM, 18 Sep 2009 (EDT)
- The whole thing is confusing. If you want to add additional redirects so it's less confusing I think that's fine. But I'd perfer if the main documentation was "Trial" or "TOC" because that matches the in-game name. Unfortunately "Coliseum" is mostly a lore thing, because it rarely appears in the UI (maps, LFG, achievement names all say "Trial of the Crusader", at least I'm 90% sure).
Howbizr(t·c) 7:47 PM, 18 Sep 2009 (EDT)
Chasing Marcia Achivement page
After checking my notes and your current version, I am unable to determine what the changes were to make the page work. Please let me know; feel free to leave me a note on my talk page. My thanks in advance.
-- Ariule (talk) 11:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
- It's a Wikia bug, actually. I think you just got unlucky, or Coobra got lucky. Howbizr(t·c) 3:27 PM, 21 Sep 2009 (EDT)
Wanted to say, dang, you are fast correcting pages! Was again looking for the Image to 
[Old Man Barlowned] and was messing with the brackets for Shattrath and Silmyr Lake (and again getting the "Invalid tag extension name: onlyinclude" error) and before I could even find it, pow, fixed. Grats!
-- Ariule (talk) 02:57, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
- Yea.. I'm like a snake.. I sneak in, strike fast, and make my escape.
(Sssss/Slithered) 03:04, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
New Pages
My apologies. It is not my intention to not complete pages, however you do have a point about tagging them when I step away. I had seen an aweful lot of red links and I felt that I could serve the wiki through putting up appropriate information, which I have been gathering in little bits and pieces throughout the day. I am by no means finished with the pages I've started on, and in some cases I've come back to work on them further to find someone beat me to it, like Boxey Boltspinner for example. I'll go through my pages from yesterday and stubtag anything that hasn't been tagged yet. Dregtal - talk
Page Vandalism
The user PCJ completely vandalised our guilds page by deleting it. This user had no permission and I believe this page delete to be a malicious and deliberate act . I ask that PCJ be punished for his actions and that you please return our page back to its original text. -- Psychostorm (talk · contr), Gm of Hillsbrad Security
Unabashed advertising
If you care to make a comment on this editing guideline, comments would be appreciated. Howbizr(t·c) 2:23 PM, 23 Sep 2009 (EDT)
(city) Tabards
I have added "you must have completed (achievement: Champion of XXX" to the various tabard pages, but I am not *quite* convinced it is strictly true.
I do not know if a) the vendor is open to members of that race who are not champions. Even if it is open to them, I do not know if Heroic Trial of the Crusader awards Champion Seals to people who have not completed at least one "Champion of" achievement.
Do you have any specific knowledge that would help? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 21:36, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
- My brother doesn't like doing the argent tourney dailies, so he has yet to become a champion of any faction, but he is still able to collect the Champion Seals... even though he can't spend them. And from my experiences unless you're a champion of a certain faction the quartermaster will not even acknowledge you. (Sssss/Slithered) 02:34, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
Steins
Given past history, I have to assume that Gourra's opinion would be that "every different variety of filled stein should be on a different page". Personally, I approve of your method. But then, you could have guessed that. 
--Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 22:42, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
Onyxia's Lair prematurely deleted
Onyxia's Lair has been transmuted to 
[Onyxia's Lair (Level 60)], a feat of strength achievement. I will be creating that page soon, but it probably would have served to have the old page Moved. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 17:09, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
- ... I had not spotted that the page was actually there now... *sigh* --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 17:10, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
Talk Pages & Bio
Talk page edit reversed as I didn't create the topic originally nor ever add to it The only change i ever made was to remove vandalism (see the history)
I appreciate you deleting the redirect page /name but the page it redirects to still exists you only blocked the editing rights of one of the four accounts the guy uses so it won't stop anything i doubt
He's been bugging someone else too (begins in T, see the history of the J page for the full name) Whatever would we do without drama queens - Jellinator (talk) 13:20, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
Stidjen
Could you add the block on Project:Violations#September_2009 for User:Stidjen? I also noted he violated Project:3RR as well the points you noted in the block log. Howbizr(t·c) 5:43 PM, 24 Sep 2009 (EDT)
- Additional user accounts for this host address exist i would name them but they were blotted out in the policy revert edit :p Maantak & Greywise are two Jellinator (talk) 17:57, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
- I don't plan to protect your page from what would be a constant fight over. As I stated in my comment on your talk page you removed, it would be a constant source of editing warring and I'd sooner delete it due to Project:NPOV. (Sssss/Slithered) 20:52, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
- I don't plan to protect your page from what would be a constant fight over. As I stated in my comment on your talk page you removed, it would be a constant source of editing warring and I'd sooner delete it due to Project:NPOV.
- I thought for a while you deleted my user page till i realised why; i hadn't seen Stidjen's remarks on it just the deletion! I really should pay more attention (thank you) Jellinator (talk) 07:46, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
tpl?
What IS this "tpl" thing you've been adding to the tooltips. A wikimedia extension? I don't find a template or page of that name. ... and what, precisely, does it do? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 22:47, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
- Something that does something for the somethings... but actually it helps prevent bad stuff that might occur, I don't have the specifics. (Sssss/Slithered) 20:33, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
Tidelord Rrurgaz
Why was this ones image deleted? TherasTaneel (talk) 14:05, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
White Wedding Dress Image
Please explain your logic that the in game image was better. Th picture I uploaded clearly showed the white dress on a dark background. -- Ariule (talk) 21:03, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
- I have read your reply and I completely and utterly fail to see what protocol was not followed. It was a screen shot from in game, not from a model view and much more clearly showed the texture and design of the dress. -- Ariule (talk) 21:44, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
Thank You
I'm sure its automated but thank you for the infomation about the guidelines, I wanted to make a user page and saw yours first and only so kinda borrowed the character idea you used, hope you don't mind. But thank you again. ^^;; Sqeeks (talk) 05:45, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
Thanks from me too. I used your userboxes as templates for mine. BobNamataki (talk) 23:20, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
Signature
How do you create a signature. Yours is great. How can I get mine?
BobNamataki
Map file name
My last uploads followed Wowwiki's name standard. I did not know that those names were given by Blizz, I though of a WW Policy.
Sorry.
Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 21:14, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Edit: Why did you reverted Archavon's map from the 3 wings to the 2 wings?
Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 21:15, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
Frozen Halls maps
Why did you remove all my maps? Are yours better somehow? --
21:32, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Cause my name is on the upload list? Maybe you should look one section up. (Sssss/Slithered) 21:41, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Excuse me? That doesn't give you the right to delete what I have uploaded... -- 21:48, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Duplicates, he reuploaded your images under new names, so yes, I deleted the other ones. I was going to just move them to their correct names had I known the official file name, but I didn't so they weren't moved and he uploaded then marked the other ones for speedydelete. Don't like it? Upload them under the correct name in the future. (Sssss/Slithered) 22:53, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
- Duplicates, he reuploaded your images under new names, so yes, I deleted the other ones. I was going to just move them to their correct names had I known the official file name, but I didn't so they weren't moved and he uploaded then marked the other ones for speedydelete. Don't like it? Upload them under the correct name in the future.
- Excuse me? That doesn't give you the right to delete what I have uploaded... --
User Page
Your user page is one of the best I've ever seen. I once saw a page with lots of Gnomes. Anyone know who that is? BobNamataki (talk) 17:06, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you... and I don't recall seeing a user page full of gnomes though... (Sssss/Slithered) 01:26, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
I wish you would do more on your characters. I like Coobra Farsight and Alice Goround the best. BobNamataki (talk) 15:49, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
My Fanfic
Hey could you take a look at my fanfic? It can be found at my user page. BobNamataki (talk) 16:45, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
Tuxedo
Thanks for fixing those two Spring Tuxedo pages. What did you do by the way? I could not tell from the edit history itself. —MJBurrage(T•C) 19:01, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
Votes
I need help. Could you create a vote to move A'noob back to a simple member. He undoes edits regularly without courtesy. Whoever agrees with me say aye on this topic and those who disagree say nay. BobNamataki (talk) 21:11, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
- I believe this should a) be a topic on the Forums, not on a random talk page, and b) use the Project:VOTE template/rules/procedure. I believe, though, that you would have to present a pretty strong case, have any chance at having admin privileges revoked. Given that you've been with us less than a week, I would not wager on your odds of success. I do think that you and he should sit down and talk about this more, though. I'm not sure that you can do so easily via the wiki's talk pages. You might want to find some other means (like IRC/IM) to hash things out. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 21:50, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
- What Coobra said. A'noob is not an Admin, he is a patroller and a member of the Watchdogs. He would have to vandalize something badly to get that revoked. BobNamataki, you are new, so it is understandable that your edits are being undone. If your edits are getting reverted, then you should discuss why you think the changes should be made on the page you want to edit's talk page. You should not ask to get a user demoted if they disagree with you.--SWM2448 22:01, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
- I'll kindly remind A'noob not to bite the newbies, which is what you probably feel has happened to you. But BobNamataki, it says on the edit screen, "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it." This is just the wiki way, and maybe that will just take some time to get used to. Howbizr(t·c) 11:18 PM, 6 Oct 2009 (EDT)
Sorry
I apologize, i just made my account today and have never made a wiki account in my life and i wanted to mess with my friend by puttin my character information on WoW Wiki, lol. None the less where can i post it? that he can still see it? Im still new to this stuff. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mackatrin (talk · contr).
Question?
How can people find my page? I wanted to show it to my friends. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mackatrin (talk · contr). 20:34, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, i think i understand rougly, so pretty much i can use this page you directed me to and post all my character stuff there? And for people to see it, i just need to give them the link? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mackatrin (talk · contr). 20:38, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
- Is there anyway i can talk to you easier? Im on WoW right now if you want to meet on a server, cuz im totally lost in what to do, i dont understand the 20:44, October 9, 2009 (UTC)~~ and ASDF AASDFASD, i dont talk HTML XD lol, sorry.
Alright, i've roughly figured out how to work this thing. I hope you dont mind but im kinda using your HTML as somthing to work off of, im still kind of confused on a few other things, but eh, also i understand now what you mean by signing my post.
P.S. If you want me to delete any of the stuff i've used from you please let me know and i'll delete it right away. (Mackatrin (talk) 21:03, October 9, 2009 (UTC))
- How do i make another page like /User:Mackatrin/what i want to put Nolo is user:Mackatrin/nolo_coli how do i make somthing like that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mackatrin (talk · contr).
Characters
Alright, so im going to make individual pages for my characters and friends, not to hard to do still trying to figure out how to make another page. My question is, if i do Nolo his name is red, on your page you have a few that are blue, how do i do that now?
(Mackatrin (talk) 22:45, October 10, 2009 (UTC))
User: Dashade
He appears to be inactive. His contributions date to 2008 and when I left a message on his talk page there was no reply at it is almost a week. BobNamataki (talk) 15:31, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
Image trouble
Something wrong with the image on 
[Hawk Owl] on the page its shows the old one, but on the image page it shows the new one, could you have a look? Thanks. TherasTaneel (talk) 16:29, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
Arnedda
Arnedda aka Sashara is the new guild leader of Guild:Lords of War (Eitrigg US) - she is new to Wiki's in general and problably clicked on my link on the guild web page and got to my user page and changed it ( not realizing that she needed to make changes to her user page at the time) so I changed her user page to show what she put on my user page and reverted your reversion of her change on the guild page ( She took my spot as guild leader ) so her changes to that page are valid - if you put her on the vandal list to be watched, please remove it -- everything she did was proper or was done by mistake ( on my page ) thanks - (M o r p h | C | T) 06:53, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
Competing fan art
I missed what happened. Would you describe Magus Eldred's recent uploads as fan art? It peeves me when users compete over that. Was it about transparency? Sorry if I am way off.--SWM2448 20:13, October 14, 2009 (UTC)
- Basically took what he uploaded over the other files names, and re-uploaded them under new names. With the renaming, some I agreed with while others I saw no need for. Except for File:Kel'thuzad Ingame.png, where it was a completely new image, which had better lightning and a different file type so I let that one pass as well. My only problem with his old god fanart is that he uses a darker background color, and I probably should have reverted back to the other until he corrected that... you can if you want however, I too get annoyed with things like that where "my work is better than yours so yours gets replaced attitude". (Sssss/Slithered) 20:20, October 14, 2009 (UTC)
Magus Commerce Exchange
I plan to perform a major edit to this, adding race icons to the npcs mentioned? Is this a good idea? BobNamataki (talk) 20:15, October 14, 2009 (UTC)
- Sure, it looks like it could use a major overhaul anyway. (Sssss/Slithered) 20:21, October 14, 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, I'm done. Could you check for any errors? BobNamataki (talk) 21:01, October 14, 2009 (UTC)
EndorphinSquad.com
We are not a guild Site. We are first and foremost an MMORPG information website.
The only reason you will see guilds on the site is because we have an affiliation program. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Falgrim (talk · contr).
Strizh
I need you to add User:Strizh to the 500 Club please. BobNamataki (talk) 19:58, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
- I don't find adding a link to other language wikis contributing to this wiki. (Sssss/Slithered) 20:01, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
- It's a vanity thing anyway, yes? Goes off of #edits, rather than #substantialEdits. Still 'meh' in my book. The Achievements for wiki editing is ... a wiki. I don't think Strizh should be denied the mark, if he wants. But I'd have to be interested in putting it on his page... --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 19:52, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
Deletions
Sure, go ahead. I'm not active enough to care any more, really. On that note, I went ahead and marked some other pages of mine for deletion too. 
Ose talk/3721 21:38, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
Onyxia
Thanks for the note. And yeah, I just found out. I swear though, cropped to a meagre 200 pixels that picture looks exactly like something that came straight from a modelviewer. An poligy for the mess I created is due here, I guess.
AMBER(RΘCK) 22:32, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
TheDmon
I apologize for my mistake. I'm new to this and I tried to add my expansion idea to the list. In fact, I do need help dealing with this. if there is ever a time that you can help me, I would appreciate it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheDmon (talk · contr).
- It be alrite, mistakes happen, it helps you learn and grow... if you have any questions just throw them my way, I'll try to help... if I can. (Sssss/Slithered) 05:03, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
Shrine of the Hawk
Didn't think the name of the pic was so important. But then, I describe what it's a picture of, when I add it. Confused me when I saw the existing pic ... "that isn't the Shrine of the Eagle!" --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:10, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
- When I originally uploaded the first screenshot I figured why take an image for all three when one would do, but after the other two were replaced, I just went ahead and renamed the first one. (Sssss/Slithered) 19:36, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
- They do look substantially the same, true. But location is everything, why I left quite so much background for Falcon. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 19:49, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
The Grateful Dead
What was wrong with 
[1-70] The Grateful Dead, while it was about a future quest it was labeled as such. It was not random speculation. The information is also on Wowhead. —MJBurrage(T•C) 22:32, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
- It's still datamined, cause it hasn't happened, unless it was on the PTR recently. (Sssss/Slithered) 04:21, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, I didn't know about the data-mining restriction before this, and from the DNP link in the deletion log, I had interpreted the restriction as stopping us from data-mining ourselves, not simply reporting information from a notable site about the game. (That's what I thought the NYR was for.) —MJBurrage(T•C) 13:56, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
Your Alts
Do you plan to do pages on the rest of your characters? The page on Coobra Farsight was good and I was wondering if their would be anymore? BobNamataki (talk) 20:48, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
- Probably not, only reason I did anything with Coobra, cause he was my main toon when a conversation started that prompted me to create the CSA... I actually never intended it grow as much as it did... =/ (Sssss/Slithered) 23:25, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
- I assume that's why you abandoned it. You know if you were RP then you could actually create the CSA. BobNamataki (talk) 17:41, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
Uncategorized Pages
I've been wondering, there are lot of e.g. item articles that have categories but are placed on the "uncategorized pages"-list. Are there an easy answer to why? TherasTaneel (talk) 01:01, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
Have you read the manual of style?
I will no longer contest the current title of the Ashen Verdict article, as it is consistant with other faction article titles, which consistantly omit any leading "The". However the manual of style doesn't say anything about omitting "the" from faction names, and contains very little information on article naming conventions. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 07:18, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
- You're right don't know why I was thinking of the MOS, when I should have been linking Project:NAME. (Sssss/Slithered) 07:48, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
Mob abilities
Since you said yourself that we don't make ability page for mobs abilities, please explain why "Renew (Feral Tender)" isn't being deleted, when you deleted all the others ability pages he made for mobs? You did with the other ones I maked. TherasTaneel (talk) 12:21, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
- Because its not in the main space, and I don't delete user pages unless that user requests it, or it falls under DNP. You should not be marking pages for deletion if they are located in someone's user space. (Sssss/Slithered) 15:43, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
- Ok. TherasTaneel (talk) 15:50, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
Wasp file picture
sorr ybut i have more trouble on your file "Wasp.png" I try to upgrade it but nnothing so you can remove my wrong updates ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Klakmuf1 (talk · contr).
- If you wanted a updated version, should have just asked. I'll make a new one soon enough. Oh... and I don't know what trouble you're talking about, but sometimes images take a bit of time to fully change, its a wiki issue. (Sssss/Slithered) 20:47, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
Unused images page
You do a lot of work with images, so do you have any thoughts about the discussion on WoWWiki talk:Unused images?--SWM2448 00:35, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
Itemboxes
I prefer the usage of itemboxes like you did at Abra Cadabra, but that is a problem if the vendor sells more than 8 items. Itembox has apparently an item quantity cap of 8. How to solve that? Hans Kamp (talk) 22:43, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- It currently has a max of 30, or so it says, I usually don't use it for npcs that sell more than 12 items, but I guess the only solution to use it with more items is just to use the template several times in a row. However it only has up to 8 unmarked, to get to the max you'll have to use item# parameter. (Sssss/Slithered) 22:53, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
- I see. Hans Kamp (talk) 06:05, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- And me, I'm not really a fan of the box in the first place. :) --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 14:57, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
- I see. Hans Kamp (talk) 06:05, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Vandalism
Coobra, I was examining the archives and came across something. Some user a few years back made minor edits to your page in order to leave comments against you. Do you have enemies on the server? BobNamataki (talk) 16:58, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Chef de Partie
I believe you have caused Thalia some distress by killing 
[Chef de Partie] while she was working on it. I will reconstruct it, hopefully in sufficient detail to prevent it being axed again. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:53, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
- eh, she blanked it, where it sat empty for some time, figured it was abandoned. (Sssss/Slithered) 18:58, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Armor collections and sets list
Could you please undelete armor collections and sets list and its' talk page? The article contained far mor information on item collections than the item collections article, and I believe that cutting the sets and merging the rest of the information with the item collections article would be more appropriate than deletion. Furthermore, there was an ongoing discussion on the talk page about whether or not a combined list was warrented. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 02:04, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
attack opology
Im sorry for my former anger towards sandwich man. I have what you could call a competitive nature and low pateince and tolerence level. with the deletion Of my page I became quite angry and tired of people attempting to put an end to my petition but realized it was over the wiki rules not hatred of the event. I opologize for any misfortune and would not like to bother the wiki further I did not know of the forum page and will politely redirect the ADVERTISMENT into the forum once again my bad. biscuit12 (talk · contr)
- Partially my fault. I saw that SWM has pointed out the deletion, and did not carefully check the deletion log. Mea Culpa. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 01:46, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
Question
You seem to be pretty good with WoWWiki so I just had some questions I couldn't find while browsing around.
Whats the difference between a charbox and an npcbox. Howcome you use an npcbox instead of a charbox for you're characters? Which do you reccomend I use? Why? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TeeSon5 (talk · contr).
Edit: Sorry, I didn't know but I'll remember for the future to keep posts at the bottom. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TeeSon5 (talk · contr).
- Doesn't really matter which one you choose to use, its all about what info you want to display. See {{npcbox}} and {{charbox}} for the parameters you can use. Also, please sign your posts. Thank you, (Sssss/Slithered) 15:02, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
Thank You TeeSon5 (talk) 15:05, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
My Page
Recently, I made a new page on WoWWiki, the Parental Controls page.
However, it has been marked with the request to Wikify it. When I posted it I tried to look through it but there doesn't really seem to be anything worth wikifying. It's mostly a Guide on how to setup an account management feature.
I am not ranting, just simply a bit curious.
On that note, I am also wondering why it's a stub. What improvements do you see that I could work on? TeeSon5 (talk) 19:52, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
- Just because you may not see something wrong or missing, doesn't mean there is not something wrong or missing and removing the stubs without fixing anything is frowned on here. For example, you didn't have the external link to the main site for the parental controls. (Sssss/Slithered) 20:28, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
Then I apologize for committing an act that is frowned upon. I hope I can turn thy frowns upside down. TeeSon5 (talk) 20:34, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
Lord Aldarion
Oi... I was making that for a friend who's coming to WoWwiki, HENCE the different email... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bigstackstwo (talk · contr).
- Considering your past actions, a heads up would have been appreciated. The page has been restored. (Sssss/Slithered) 23:59, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
Mount images
I've been busy putting mount screenshots *also* into the critter type (horse mounts into Horses, etc). Please tell me I'm not mucking things up?.... --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 23:21, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
RE: Images (On my Talk Page)
Thank you for the Link to the Image Guidelines and the compliment ;D
I just finished reading it and I will from now on name my images instead of using the Upload Name and I will licence them, as it requests. However, I did have a quick question about two images I recently uploaded.
My first image, File:Lumber Mill (Arathi Basin).jpg was marked with a Cleanup Request Second, File:Guild list (interface).jpg, was marked with a Replacement Request
I would just like to know what exactly you're looking for to make the image better so I can go back in and go get new ones for you. Thanks a bunch! TeeSon5 (talk) 22:17, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
- Addition: Alright, I'll go back into Arathi Basin and go get another Lumbermill Pic, as thats perfectly understandable. As for the Guild Internace picture, the white blocks are to protect the identities of the Guild Members. TeeSon5 (talk) 22:26, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
- New Picture Uploaded, I hope it is to you're liking =D TeeSon5 (talk) 22:53, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah I was trying to get the same angle, wasn't too hard. One other thing has been bugging me for a while though. On my user page at http://www.wowwiki.com/User:TeeSon5 there seems to be an issue with my header that I can't figure out. Do you think you could help me? Just make it look nicer because it's red and I'm not sure why or how to fix it.
Thanks for the fix!
Thanks for fixing the header on my User Page. I tried to remove it as you suggested but all that left me with was a blank section header which was unappealing. So thanks for fixing the problem for me. Much appretiated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TeeSon5 (talk · contr).
Regards to Zalazane (organization)
Do you not feel it should be deleted, instead of just redirected? Just to save space. TeeSon5 (talk) 02:09, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
Regards to Sturdy Cobalt Quickblade
How come the picture was removed? TeeSon5 (talk) 02:31, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
- Cause TheWeapon is not a descriptive name. EDIT: Oh, you said removed, not moved. Cause in-game images are preferred over model viewer ones... and I changed to a more descriptive name. (Sssss/Slithered) 02:16, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, I just have a few questions then if this is the case.
- Does this mean I should not be using Images from 3D Model Viewers? I know you said they were preferred but if there is no screenshot out there would it be okay?
- Does this mean you're going to remove the picture I uploaded for Wand of Sseratus due to the fact it's a Model Viewer Shot?
- File:Lightbringer Chestpiece.jpg that you uploaded from the Wowhead site has the a lot of the set on. The reason I did not choose this picture was because it had other peices of gear along with it and I thought that would be less favorable to an image that is exclusive to just the piece of gear.
- How come you marked Sturdy Cobalt Quickblade as a stub?
- -- TeeSon5 (talk) 02:31, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, I just have a few questions then if this is the case.
- You can use images from the model viewer, and its fine to use them if no available in-game screenshot. Images can contain more than one item piece, so long as the focus is on the main piece talked about in the article... you could also upload an image containing all the set pieces to put that on each item's page to reduce the amount of images uploaded. 3). Nah I'll just move it to a new name. As for the stub I did that cause of the missing categories. (Sssss/Slithered) 02:33, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
- You can use images from the model viewer, and its fine to use them if no available in-game screenshot. Images can contain more than one item piece, so long as the focus is on the main piece talked about in the article... you could also upload an image containing all the set pieces to put that on each item's page to reduce the amount of images uploaded. 3). Nah I'll just move it to a new name. As for the stub I did that cause of the missing categories.
- But if you do plan to use model viewer images, please note that the background color should match the wowwiki background default color. (Sssss/Slithered) 02:36, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
- But if you do plan to use model viewer images, please note that the background color should match the wowwiki background default color.
- Alright I'll remember that next time I do use it. Also, as for the stub, I removed it because I added Categories. TeeSon5 (talk) 02:39, November 7, 2009 (UTC) EDIT: According to Project:Image guidelines/3D model software page, it is requested that I upload Model Viewer screenshots as PNG files. So, I reuploaded the picture as PNG and marked the File:Wand of Sseratus.jpg up for speedydelete because I'm trying to follow all the guidelines and requests. However, going back to the page it doesn't look transparent. Is there something I did wrong? All I did was tranfer the raw file on my computer into PNG and reuploaded.
- JPG files are fine, unless you're looking to make it transparent (in which case you don't need to for the items). Making the image a PNG file will not automatically make them transparent, you'll have to remove the background yourself with photo editing software. (Sssss/Slithered) 03:06, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
- JPG files are fine, unless you're looking to make it transparent (in which case you don't need to for the items). Making the image a PNG file will not automatically make them transparent, you'll have to remove the background yourself with photo editing software.
About the images you spoke off....
Hey sorry to bother you, but I'm having issues making a profile for my toon on this site. I think I spend 5 hrs trying to figure out how to reseize images I uploaded that I wanted to use for my WoWbox or w/e they call it, and no matter what I do, can't figure it. Already uploaded several different pictures and played around with them but I can't get it figured out. Reading the help me guide doesn't help much either, it's like reading a manual on how to manufacture a Warpdrive engine lol. I don't know how other people have such an easy time just making their roleplay profiles, but this is just complicated as helll xD Could you please tell me how I could just reseize my picture once I have it in the text for the wowbox? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yrlissa (talk · contr).
- The thing is I looked up two profiles of two different people, and the images they used for their NPCboxes, were larger then mine, yet the dimensions smaller then the pictures I uploaded. I figured out how to reseize pictures outside the NPCbox, but when I preview the page, I always end up with the same small seized image, no matter how often I re-edit the pic on my computer.
- Spook and Jesseira are the two names , whose pics for their NCPboxes are larger then the pics I have and I am not sure why.
- I cant even scroll any further in on my toon in wow, without casuing the character to becoem see thru and the pics I took should be bigger then they end up when I put the code in the text box for the NPCbox. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yrlissa (talk · contr).
- Oh wow that image looks so much better...Awesome, thanks =)
- I took a look at my picture editor just now and realized what you were talking about.
- I didn't know that it would affect the image in such way if one didn't crop it right, very interesting—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yrlissa (talk · contr).
In regards to Grulloc being banned
Cobra - Not only did you ban my alternate account, but you deleted my user page? What is going on here? The page I edited was my own, sir. I was not vandalizing or creating any form of problem. You just killed the page I was working on over a misunderstanding. Please contact me so we can get this resolved.
Respectfully,
Jonathan
- Have no idea what you're talking about, I have killed no page of yours. You should know having an account for each character is a nono. User:Grulloc, User:Grulloc Hellrage, and User:Blackbane... which is your main account? (Sssss/Slithered) 22:44, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
In regards to deleting the page on Emerald Dream Personalities
Umm, wasn't spam, and to my knowledge wasn't WWP:NPOV either. It was a piece of our server-history and notable names throughout the last 4 years. *sigh* (Also, apologies. I accidentally posted this in someone else's comment thread. Fixing now) Daezed (talk) 20:56, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
Ebon Blade flier
There's a problem with the Ebon Blade flying mount... it's not a skeletal horse. All other skeletal mounts are of horses. Thus... Unique.
It's not a skeletal horse, so it only gets passing mention on Skeletal horse mounts. It's not a Gryphon, so it should only get the same there. I was intending to put it with the rest of the oddballs in a new Unique mounts page (that I was in the process of writing when you moved the entry from the footer). --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 21:20, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- Thats why I never specified that footer for just skeletal horses, It's marked as "skeletal mounts", its a skeletal mount no doubt about it. While yes its with only horses, thats cause not too many skeletal mounts have been designed. (Sssss/Slithered) 21:22, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- I agree, it's skeletal, alright. And the Raven Lord is a feathered flier, the brooms -or at least the rockets - are devices... But it's also the only skeletal flier as well. IMO it does not match well with the skeletal horses if the only things they have in common are "bones showing" and "mounts". --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 21:44, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- Fine, move it. Whole point was to group together things based on characteristics on said creatures. (Sssss/Slithered) 21:48, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed. However, at some point, it chops too finely. Remember, each new category *should* be listed in {{Mountfooter}}. My druthers would be to have 'Other' instead of 'Unique', and to pile all the one and two -of-a-types into there, including Turtles. But you're changing things in this same space, and I don't want to step on your edits too. Would you be so kind as to chop Unique mounts up to fit what you're working on? And let me know when you're satisfied with the new divisions? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 22:12, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- Fine, move it. Whole point was to group together things based on characteristics on said creatures.
- I agree, it's skeletal, alright. And the Raven Lord is a feathered flier, the brooms -or at least the rockets - are devices... But it's also the only skeletal flier as well. IMO it does not match well with the skeletal horses if the only things they have in common are "bones showing" and "mounts". --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 21:44, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- I never intended for each category to be listed, originally all drakes appeared together, but Klakmuf1 changed that. I intended just creature types to appear in the main footer and everything else (of 3 or more) would get its own footer, but not included in the main one... was trying to prevent this template from getting out of hand like its predecessor... but its seems to be heading that way. (Sssss/Slithered) 22:20, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- I never intended for each category to be listed, originally all drakes appeared together, but Klakmuf1 changed that. I intended just creature types to appear in the main footer and everything else (of 3 or more) would get its own footer, but not included in the main one... was trying to prevent this template from getting out of hand like its predecessor... but its seems to be heading that way.
Wonder where Invincible will end up... a flying skeletal horse. (Sssss/Slithered) 21:54, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- It's actually NOT the only skeletal mount that isn't a horse. The WotLK arena mounts are skeletal dragons. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:03, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- Invincible: no wings, skeletal horse even if he flies. Assuming he becomes nabable as loot or something.
- Skeletal dragons: is that what the Ebon Blade steed is too? Don't have one, can't examine it for ... um, plumage? Anyway, aren't the arena mounts Vehicles, same as the jousting mounts? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 22:15, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- No the ebon blade one is a skeletal gryphon, and the skeletal dragons are actual mounts rewarded for doing arena. (Sssss/Slithered) 22:24, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- No the ebon blade one is a skeletal gryphon, and the skeletal dragons are actual mounts rewarded for doing arena.
Wretched capitalization
Yes, however, in-game the word Wretched is capitalized in quests, items, and the like. You yourself even confirmed this.
Sebreth (talk) 01:14, November 11, 2009 (UTC)