Talk:Shalamayne

So, would Shalamayne approximately mean Shadow Reaver? Tevri (talk) 22:58, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Kingsmourne

Would people be opposed to moving this page to Kingsmourne? I know there was some initial doubt about whether the two are the same weapon, but I think that at this point it's safe to assume that they are, partially because it's just logical (Shalamayne disappears after Anduin is brought into Torghast, then the Jailer and Sylvanas whip out a sword that conveniently looks just like a corrupted Shalamayne), and partially because artists who worked on the cinematics refer to Kingsmourne as Shalamayne in ArtStation posts like this one, this one, and this one. -- DeludedTroll (talk • contribs) 18:41, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Absolutely not until we get some kind of direct confirmation that's not just "the artists use the names interchangeably." There's too much of a history of artists using the wrong names for things for me to take that as word of god. To say nothing of the possibility that they're informally calling it that because the design spec was, for example, "a Maw-themed version of Shalamayne." -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 19:01, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Ok, that's fair. Does anyone want to try asking Danuser or someone about it on Twitter? -- DeludedTroll (talk • contribs) 19:07, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Think it can wait a bit, 910 PTR is hopefully coming soon, so we may potentially get some new info there. -- Mordecay (talk) 19:44, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Update: Danuser confirms that "Shalamayne was used to forge Kingsmourne." My gut feeling is to merge the pages, but I could also see an argument for keeping them separate, so I'm not sure what the best option is. -- DeludedTroll (talk • contribs) 21:35, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

The way I see it, "Shalamayne" was destroyed/used to make Kingsmourne. Similar to Frostmourne and the Blades of the Fallen Prince. IMO, advised against a merge. — SurafbrovWarcraft Wiki administrator T / C 21:49, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

I'll add the tweet info to both pages but keep them separate for now, until more people have weighed in. -- DeludedTroll (talk • contribs) 21:53, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm essentially of the same mind as Suraf. Link them, to be sure, but probably keep the pages separate. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:54, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

After thinking about it, I also feel that Shalamayne and Kingsmourne should be separate pages.-- X59 (talk) 21:57, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Kingsmourne, round deux

As I was half expecting, Kingsmourne was only a temporary phase and not a permanent transformation, since as of the Anduin defeat cinematic and subsequent campaign chapters, Kingsmourne is kaput and back to Ellemayne and Shalla'tor. Because of this it would make the most sense to merge all of the Kingsmourne information into this article, yes? We don't need to do it right away, but for now I'll at least edit the two articles to reflect that Shalamayne "is" and Kingsmourne "was" (as opposed to the reverse). -- DeludedTroll (talk • contribs) 20:53, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

IMO, I think it would be good to fuse the two pages, as Kingmourne didn't actually exist very long to become a weapon in its own right, it was just a mere transitional state just like it was for Anduin under domination. WardsJames (talk) 20:58, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, as things turned out, I agree this'd work better as a "Kingsmourne" section on the Shalamayne page. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:12, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Decided to be impatient and go ahead with the merge since I didn't feel like waiting for more input and I can't think of any scenario in which it would be preferable to keep the pages separate. -- DeludedTroll (talk • contribs) 14:00, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

I think as of the defeat cinematic as well as the Sylvanas-Bastion cinematic that's part of the campaign's chapter 5, the note about Anduin only carrying Ellemayne back to Zereth Mortis needs to be temporarily removed or modified. In the Sylvanas-Bastion cinematic, you can clearly see he has both Ellemayne and Shalla'tor on his back, while the NPC version of him in the same room only has one. Until Blizzard fixes the bug (either the cinematic or the NPC), we don't know what their intent with it is. --TheCheat54 (talk) 16:18, 9 March 2022 (UTC)