Template talk:Toy Box

Maintainability and readability

Maintainability

Moving the table of toys to its own template does nothing to ameliorate its massiveness and difficulty, and will only become more so with future expansions. Here is my thought:

1. Break the table into multiple tables. I am thinking multiple templates but my expertise with wiki structure is limited so if there's a better way please write so.

If that's reasonable, then what do we break it down by? It seems overkill to have one for each letter, but a strict range of letters doesn't seem like a great solution either; there are a lot of Bs and Cs, for example.

Readability

I also want standardization of phrasing used in the list. I'd like to hear opinion about these.

Quest Reward, Achievement Reward

I went ahead with changing all "Quest Reward" to "Quest" (and same vein for Achievement) because 'reward' is already denoted in the Notes column, so it felt really redundant. The Blizzard tooltips for toys in the Toy Box also just use Quest and Achievement, so now Wowpedia matches that.

"Drops from" vs "Dropped by" vs "Looted from"

I prefer to keep things in the same tense? Past-tense phrasing matches "Sold by" which is used elsewhere in the table. [Edit 19:13 29 Nov 2015 UTC: 'Dropped by' should be used when it's from a mob's loot table.] 'Looted from' should be used when the item is taken from a container/object, I think.

"Sold by" vs "Purchased from"

I believe 'sold by' should be used when it is a NPC vendor, and 'purchased from' when it's not (ex: Black Market Auction House).

Reputation requirements

Please use Template:Reputation in notes when an item has a reputation requirement from a vendor.

Alternative currencies

For non-traditional currencies like  [Burning Blossom], I believe it is better to use the Template:Costitem. (Thank you Alayea for pointing me to it yesterday!) It keeps the style for those currencies the same across the table, and generally looks nicer.

Aliok (talk) 17:20, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

The best way I see is to separate it by source, it wouldn't be a lot but the articles would still quite large (and grow as patches come and go). And the way you have setup the readability should be perfect. — SurafbrovWarcraft Wiki administrator T / C 18:00, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm not too well versed in the template wiki structures either: While I don't have a strong opinion with the template being large, I agree with you on the topic of making the wordings more similar, and your choices are all agreeable to me. PeterWind (talk) 19:02, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Like Quest, Achievement, Vendor, Treasure, etc? That didn't occur to me and I think it's worth considering, though as you say nearly all the articles would still be quite large. Would it be worthwhile to ask in the Village Pump? I'm not sure how many editors keep track of the toy box specifically. Also I made an edit to Readability, I accidentally left out a sentence. Hope it is still ok? Aliok (talk) 19:13, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Topics in the Village Pump sure are a lot more accessible than having to scout the recent changes yeah :) If the template is to be split up in smaller parts, that's probably a good way to go about it yeah. PeterWind (talk) 20:37, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

I made it here. Forum:Assistance_needed_with_reorganizing_Toy_Box_template Aliok (talk) 22:44, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes exactly like that. Though the articles wouldn't be big mess as it seems right now, they will only just build up over time. (The readability is still great, you only made it more precise). — SurafbrovWarcraft Wiki administrator T / C 22:17, 29 November 2015 (UTC)