Talk:Many-Pocketed Leather Pants

Or are the databases wrong on the price? --Mordecay (talk) 12:40, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Just checked. Yes, they are wrong from what is actually in-game.. but only the durability and sell price. But this does not mean to revert previous changes that other editors have done just to correct two things. I have added editor notes for the mean time. — SurafbrovWarcraft Wiki administrator T / C 12:49, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Okay. I'm rather tired that people keep editing the page for whatever superfluous reason. Peter rearranged the fields from default boilerplate and wasted their time deleting single spaces while adding a single category. Then Suraf changed it while making a legit update, BECAUSE THEY AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMED MY INFO WAS WRONG. Would you like me to include my screenshots next time, put them in a gallery on the page? And then Mord reverted my changes to make it wrong again! Are you not all unaware of the boilerplates?

I'm not saying that the fields must rigidly follow those, but when I add something, I keep the fields I need and delete all the fields in between that I don't need. Boom, entry filled in. Why waste time messing around with that? Yes, I have updated entries to rearrange fields to boilerplate listing, simply because when I haven't, I ended up adding fields that were already there because they were added to the bottom of the box. Rather annoyed at this, by following the boilerplate I ensure I don't do this.

At the very least, Mord and Suraf later questioned if the databases weren't updated. Everyone is different, but for me, I edit in good faith, and to make the page better. Just... leave it be if you're not sure, confirm in-game, then update the page.--Mondoblasto (talk) 00:25, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

You don't need to provide screenshots, but actually provide a reason to why you revert in the summary box. "This is what it looks like in-game" would help communicate this issue. Also, the edit you just did was incorrect from what is actually in-game. — SurafbrovWarcraft Wiki administrator T / C 01:11, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Are you trying to say it was changed the day after I got it? You say I don't need to provide a SS, and yet you're quite insistent that I'm the one that's wrong. I'm starting to think that I do need to give you one. --(talk) 01:28, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

1. You reverted Peter's edit. Which removed a lot of stuff that is unnecessary to revert, it also included the {{Sell}} template which is unnecessary considering that {{itemtip}} can do just that without it.
2. A few days later, you revert my edit but then you reverted that revert and again reverted that revert. The information is correct (but again, the databases =/ in-game wasn't in thought), however, you don't need to provide {{Sell}} in the template as we really don't need to make unnecessary edits like rearranging parameters to match their boilerplate.
3. Morde questions the databases. I went in-game and typed in the code (given by Wowhead): /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("\124cff9d9d9d\124Hitem:121392::::::::120:::::\124h[Many-Pocketed Leather Pants]\124h\124r"); and made the adjustments accordingly. This edit made it correct and it followed the tooltip to what it actually is in-game.
4. You reverted the edit that made it correct, therefore it is now incorrect and did more unnecessary things such as rearranging the boilerplate and adding the {{Sell}} template.

I also just asked pcj on Slack if the gadget (the "add functionality to generate item pages") follows the same format as the boilerplate, which he said, "Not particularly". They really don't need to match the boilerplate, it just needs to make the tooltip look what it is actually in-game. — SurafbrovWarcraft Wiki administrator T / C 01:45, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

About the boilerplate, I explained why I do what I do, but perhaps I need to clarify: the rearranging Peter did in the first place was not at all wrong, if completely unnecessary, if he'd made the page his way instead of me with the BP, I'd be more inclined to leave things be. However, I'm learning disabled. When updating an infobox where the fields are all switched around, it takes me three, if not four times as long to check that when I hit Save, the data is correct. And yeah, I may rearrange it to BP, but that's simply to save time (for the aforementioned reason). For me it's a bit like..... Knolling, to make things easier for me. It's just easier to keep the actual good editing and add it to a revert then to manually change everything.

The other constant reverts in a row? I fucked up three times in a row.

And finally I input that code (which is a pretty cool trick, I did know about music/dialogue but not for items), I guess you forgot (I'm thinking most likely) or where unaware: durability doesn't show up in those links. You have to have in in your inventory, like I actually did. So what you've been doing is actually promote the wrong info (and thus my question about SS). --Mondoblasto (talk) 02:30, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Okay good catch on that durability thing, except still doesn't mean to revert everything and change the boilerplate over and over again. Just add back the durability and call it a day. The template also does not need {{Sell}}, that portion was removed from the boilerplate because it is completely unnecessary when the {{itemtip}} template can do just that without it. — SurafbrovWarcraft Wiki administrator T / C 02:43, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

The template also does not need {{Sell}}

I never said that it did. I do think it's more elegant and makes it easier to see what is what rather than a long string of numbers, but that's just my personal opinion. --Mondoblasto (talk) 03:08, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Of course you never said it, I'm just saying it in regard to your revert. I reverted your edit to remove {{Sell}} and add back the note to editors about the gold (which shouldn't have been removed because some editors could come by and change it to what the databases has it at currently). — SurafbrovWarcraft Wiki administrator T / C 03:13, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Mondo, are you aware of the feature to autogenerate item pages? Under "Preferences -> Gadgets -> Site" make sure that "Adds functionality to generate item pages complete with tooltips from the drop down menu on edit pages. (Shortcut: Alt+Shift+Z)" is checked. When enabled, this allows you to create pages with "Alt+Shift+Z". I find that I sometimes have to reload a page for it to work, but when it does, a popup will appear asking for the name of the item. The pagename will be the standard, but if several items by the same name exist, you can put in the item ID instead. The feature will then pop in the info available on Wowhead. You will have to fill in source and patch notes yourself, as well as categories. PeterWind (talk) 08:01, 29 October 2018 (UTC)