Talk:Falstad Wildhammer

It's oviously the same person !--K ) (talk) 08:30, 14 October 2006 (EDT)

Agreed. The information on Dragonreaver should be moved here, and have it redirect. --Ragestorm 17:38, 15 October 2006 (EDT)

Falstad is too weak

Considering all he has done Falstad is simply too weak in World of Warcraft. Level 50 non-elite? Allow me to laugh. He should be level 72 elite. - Theron the Just

Maybe Krasus just gave crappy quest experience. --Super Bhaal 17:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Game mechanics can cramp a character's style sometimes, I agree. Especially such a hero as Falstad. He should at least be the equal of his brother. Oh, the woes of being in a level 40-50 area. --User:Vorbis/Sig 23:07, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Since you said that, I'm guessing they did it so people could PvP him while doing quests. --Super Bhaal 23:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

He took part in the quest, but ask yourselves, how much did he really DO? He took part in a few battles, yes, but it's not like he held off an orc horde by himself or killed 15 demons. His feats in Day of the Dragon just aren't that impressive compared to Warcraft's more well known characters.--Austin P (talk) 14:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

HotS art

I didn't change this one because I think it might actually be fine in this case. Falstad's HotS art is practically identical to his canon appearance, and I think it's better than using the comic image in the infobox. Not sure if it's better to go with overall consistency in the treatment of HotS art or doing it on a case-by-case basis, though. -- DeludedTroll (talk • contribs) 18:28, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Hmm... Fair enough. What do you think about File:Kael'thas HotS Art 2.jpg, File:Greymane HotS Art 2.jpg, and File:Muradin HotS Art 2.jpg? --Mordecay (talk) 21:34, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Hm, I'd say Kael'thas' image is fine but the current image (File:Kael.jpg) works just as well and depicts him in a situation more friendly to the most recent lore (Netherstorm vs. Silvermoon). Muradin in HotS depicts him as he appeared in Warcraft III, not how he currently appears in the modern day, so I'd say that's a definite no in regards to using in the infobox. Not sure about Genn; it would be convenient to have an image that shows both his human and worgen form at the same time, but I'm not sure if that image goes under "close enough to his canon appearance" since, for example, his armor is a bit different, and the background looks like it's just the generic Heroes of the Storm character select screen backdrop with a banner thing on the left, but I can't really tell.

Basically, I'd say that if HotS art matches a character's current, canon appearance decently well and no better/more accurate canon art is available, it's fine to use the HotS art, but if there is, say, TCG art also matching a character's current canon appearance and it's not of terrible quality, that would take preference over the HotS image. Of course, this is all just my opinion; I don't really know the rest of the wiki's opinion on this matter, though I know Taohinton has voiced concerns about this matter and argued that Rexxar specifically looks too different in HotS compared to his canon appearance for his HotS art to take precedence over canon pictures in his infobox. (Hopefully that all made sense and didn't sound too rambly.) -- DeludedTroll (talk • contribs) 09:11, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

I'd rather not use HotS art in infoboxes, EXCEPTED for Gazlowe because the previous picture was vomit-inducing. Note that I'm not strongly against HotS art though, if several editors think they are fine, I'd be okay with it Xporc (talk) 09:26, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Agreed with both of you. --Mordecay (talk) 13:14, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Gazlowe, his HotS art is also used on his Hearthstone card, and Hearthstone is at least somewhat more canon than Heroes is. -- DeludedTroll (talk • contribs) 18:11, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Damn your logic! Anyway, I definitely see your points - especially in regard to Kael and Muradin. Can't really see the concern about Rexxar though? That art looks, to me at least, really close to previous artworks as well as his appearances in both Warcraft 3 and WoW. Regarding Genn, this one is a bit tricky, isn't it? He seems to have had a variety of different armor styles, most looking more or less similar (File:Greymane HotS Art 2.jpg, File:CurseWorgen4CoverSample.jpg, File:Genn Greymane legion model.jpg) - and none of them exactly matching his current style. Dajax02 (talk) 23:04, 12 January 2017 (UTC)