Talk:Dinosaur
Not dinosaurs
The pterrordax and the treshadon ain´t dinosaurs; they are pterosaurs and plesiosaurs, respectively. Dr.M.Ginius (talk) 16:34, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- True, but they are usually put in the same category in fantasy universes, and these creatures seem to share an origin. I'd actually think that Treshadons and raptors don't really belong on the list, since their native population is mostly outside un'goro. Ijffdrie (talk) 11:49, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
I mirror the view that they ain´t dinosaurs and that real world fossil equivalents should be considered, and that they should be stated to be reptiles if not directly stated to be dinosaurs in the game or other canon material. I would like to contest these two reverts:
- https://wow.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Template:Creaturefooter/Beast&oldid=prev&diff=5352460
- https://wow.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Pterrordax&type=revision&diff=5352458&oldid=5350928
On the Dinosaur page in the RPG section Threshadon are described as dinosaurs, and on the Pterrordax page in the RPG section pterrordax are described as dinosaurs, as these are non canon I believe that neutrally stating that they are reptiles should be the correct edit.
Also Diemetradon real world closest equivalent are also not Dinosaurs they are Synapsid as stated in it's Notes section.
These sold be reverted to just reptiles and the "Possible dinosaur relatives" subsection:
And Threshadon that is currently not stated to be a dinosaur on it's page and on the Dinosaur page is the correct way they should be edited. But the Threshadon Category page shroud only be in a new Reptile Category not in the Dinosaur Category (also a simple Reptile page can be made).
Additionally in the first revert referenced above it's stated that Scalehides are an official in-game classification of animals but they are not they are a hunter pet family like Blood Beasts. Mrforesttroll (talk) 12:43, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- non-canon RPG lore > non-canon real-life lore IMO. Thought I see how this could be argued. Xporc (talk) 13:55, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- So what is your possition as Threshadon is currently out and Diemetradon and Pterrordax are in dinosaurs, which should change? Mrforesttroll (talk) 14:08, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- Lmao I'm really not, Xporc. But thanks for the consideration. :')
- Either way, it is correct that pterrodaxes and co. aren't dinosaurs when it comes to real life classification, but seeing as we're playing World of Warcraft, where they'd likely call pretty much any big, scary reptile a dinosaur as they don't have a super intricate index of species, I'd put them all under dinosaur for ease of access and because as far as we know, the people of Azeroth don't know better and just call them all dinosaurs. But that's just my opinion.
- And I do seem to recall that at some point, some developer referred to all Zandalari druid forms as dinosaurs (probably because it's just easier to do so), but I'm having a hard time remembering where that would be from. –WarGodZajru (talk) 21:33, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- Considering that several dinomancers can turn into and/or summon pterrordaxes, I consider the matter settled about them. If the RPG says Threshadons are dinosaurs, until there is a canon info saying they are not, I think we should keep considering them dinosaurs as well. So that leaves what... the sabertusk? at this point IMO we should consider them dinosaurs as well, considering blizzard doesn't give a fuck about IRL paleontology. As Zajru says, any big beast with spooky teeth and scales is a dino in WoW. Xporc (talk) 11:48, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah I wouldn't get too hung up on real-life nuances in matters like these. Have there been anything pointing at dino-esque creatures in wow not being dinosaurs? As in, sometimes creatures are named dinosaurs, other times it's vague. Has there been any creatures where NPC or other lore specify that they are not dinosaurs despite what you might think? PeterWind (talk) 12:56, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- Xporc, seeing as you said you consider pterrordaxes to be dinos because dinomancers take on their form, should that also apply to sabertusks then? Cus playable Zandalari druids are pretty much dinomancers as they're capable of taking on several dino forms. –WarGodZajru (talk) 13:09, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- Likewise. And well, sabertusks have pretty much no lore on them at all, it's pretty depressing. Thanks Blizz. –WarGodZajru (talk) 13:48, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Falcosaurs
Falcosaurs are both birds and dinosaurs, that is why they are called falcosaurs. They can be on both pages.--SWM2448 03:56, 7 November 2017 (UTC)