User talk:SODIX89

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Scarlets

Hello, could u explain what you mean that the Scarlets led by Goodchilde are members of the Silver Hand? Also, even despite the development in Legion, the tweet refers to the era before Legion so it seems correct, no? --Mordecay (talk) 21:54, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Scarlets was a lead force of Silver Hand right before WotLK, they seen themselves not as new, but as old rebranded order. Saidan Dathrohan himself was highest ranking survivor member of Order, and so his forces and leaders after his death still is a part of Silver Hand. Not a very incorporated into mainstream ranks, but alike Argent Dawn.

And now about Monastery thing. In Pandaria Lillian just once again raided monastery(as undead did many times before), and killed lady Whitemane, WHILE, main forces wasn't killed as we could see in Legion. Scarlet Crusade are rebuilding itself from inside, got new commander and priest(Feralas the Fanatic). Was Commander Goodchild killed or not we would see in next addon. You probably know that thing about Scarlets, when they was killed in one addon, it simply doesn't mean that organization would die in next one.

In case you missed it, the Knights of the Silver Hand were reformed in Legion, and the Scarlet Crusade are definitively not part of the order. Xporc (talk) 22:16, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

It was reformed many times before, but SC was original and main part of the order. SODIX89 (talk) 22:45, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Hmm... I think it was the other way around - a new order made up from the surviving members of the Silver Hand (post-W3) so they couldn't have been members of it, nor they are in the present. It was kinda not functioning and Tirion wanted to reform the original Silver Hand and he later merged it with Argent Dawn to create Argent Crusade... and in Legion it is reformed (again?), that's the intro of the quest-line, I believe. Also, is it said in Legion they are actually rebuilding? Goodchilde was killed in the DK quest-line. --Mordecay (talk) 22:27, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

SC is a what left of Silver Hand in Lordaeron and while it was renamed they still have had bastions, hierarchy and props of original organization, while even Argen Dawn are not and could be seen as defectors and deserters of original order.

Tirion was a no one figure and had not real power in Silver Hand, we could see that as Stormwind branch still wasn't a part of order prior Legion. So he just merget himself with Argent Dawn and named it new Silver Hand. Such a nonsense. Order was really somehow rebuild only in Legion, but still not as some united one, there are still inner factions like Argent Dawn, Sunwalkers and Scarlet Crusade.

They are rebuilding as it seen that Monastery wasn't damaged, it population killed and wiped to dust. New leaders, new mobs and quests. And again, no one would say Goodchild was actually killed in action, because we don't burn his body or turn him into ghoul. Monastery leaders was raided 2-3 addons, and only in last one they was actually killed in event. Goodchild will die or not, in next addon.SODIX89 (talk) 22:45, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

So your point of view is that Tirion was a nobody, the Argent Dawn were heretics and the Scarlet Crusade were the true remnants of the Silver Hand? That's nonsense breh. Xporc (talk) 22:52, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Tirion was banished from Silver Hand for his crimes against Order and Lordaeron. And Dawn really defected from Order after Ashbringer event in Scarlet Monastery where got their own opinion on Order politics and rules. Maxwell Tyrosus was just a usual SH officer(?) or even just a champion who disagreed with new decrees and deserted from SH with some of the members. While SC managed to continue have all order relicts, hierarchy, story and task.SODIX89 (talk) 23:38, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Provide a clear source for SC being "main part of the SH". Pretty sure Ashbringer comic and UVG aren't that as these clearly state the non-existence of the SH during the Scarlet Crusade's birth. The only bit I agree is that the Scarlet Crusaders were the surviving AND former members of the SH. --Mordecay (talk) 22:55, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

We're dangerously close to the three revert rule anyway, so you guys discuss this instead of doing an edit war please Xporc (talk) 23:00, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Silver hand still had the hierarchy, tabards and command in times of Southshore event. After death of Uther Silver Hand disagree with order disbanding and so Saidan Dathrohan as second in-command an a formal leader of organization. Yeah SH did got big loses and casualties but they had managed to save structure and look of order. In times of Ashbringer group of Saidan, Mograine and co was a main part of order, the band who hadn't converted into Circle of The Light, Defenders of Truth etc. They still was a Silver Hand, ruling part of it. You also could see that Scarlet Crusade had saved original artifacts of Silver Hand such as codex and other things in former bastions of Silver Hand. So SC see itself as original and only heir and owner of Silver Hand brand.SODIX89 (talk) 23:38, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Fan art

Hello, fan arts should not be in infoboxes. --Mordecay (talk) 21:31, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi, current one a fanart too as well. And motto was there just because of former picture with Crusader Goodchild SODIX89 (talk) 21:39, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Oh, it is? The description of the file says it's Blizzard's art. --Mordecay (talk) 21:44, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

I uploaded current this picture few years ago, it's a fanart. Good one, and with free license. As a new one. SODIX89 (talk) 21:56, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Coobra said that something official should be placed there. And the pic was incorrectly treated as official. So it was not allowed. --Mordecay (talk) 22:15, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Edit war

Hello,

• having multiple accounts is not allowed here.
• SC was not original part, not even any part of the SH, aside the fact that the FORMER and REMAINING members of the SH created the Crusade.--Mordecay (talk) 16:09, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Remember the three revert rule. Please take the disagreement to the KotSH talk page. Edit summaries are not talk pages.--SWM2448 18:35, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Multiple user accounts

It appears that you share the IP address you have had while on Wowpedia with multiple other users accounts. Per Project:UN, this is not allowed and all but one account must be closed.--SWM2448 21:54, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Something wrong with login management, because the same login in different(upper or lower) cases detects as different users. I also completely lost my original acc(OldPatriot) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SODIX89 (talk · contr).

User accounts are case sensitive. You are not in trouble yet. Are you also WhiteLodge‎? You share IP addresses.--SWM2448 22:04, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

How it could be that the different accounts have to be with same password and same e-mail, huh?

For example sodix89 and SODIX89 both have one password and e-mail.

WhiteLodge isn't me.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by SODIX89 (talk · contr).

Okay. I'll look into this.--SWM2448 22:11, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Ebon Blade

Ebon Blade was created from the death knights of Acherus and there's no lore on who exactly participated the Summertide Assaults (if that's what u are referring). So either way, Ebon Blade itself attacked the Monastery only during Legion. --Mordecay (talk) 16:51, 25 February 2017 (UTC)