Talk:Warlock minion

Merge candidate

We should probably merge the content from warlock minions into this article because they appear to be about the same topic.  Howbizr^(t·c) 11:14 AM, 12 Jul 2009 (EDT)

Minion ability coefficients

Does anyone have information on minion abilities' attack power and spell power coefficients? I couldn't find anything on elitistjerks. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 04:21, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I've gotten information from the rawr source code. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 03:57, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Minion health, mana and ability costs

Level 67 minion data:

Minion	Total health	Stamina	Health from stamina	Health per stamina	Base health	Total mana	Intellecct	Mana from intellect	Mana per intellect	Base mana
Imp	5196	375	2225	~5.933	2971	2985	459	2179	~4.747	806
Voidwalker	6624	570	2915	~5.114	3709	3714	250	2691	~10.684	1043
Succubus	5420	570	2384	~4.182	3036	3714	250	2671	~10.684	1043
Felhunter	5721	570	2517	~4.416	3204	4268	298	3226	~10.826	1024
Felguard	6624	570	2915	~5.114	3709	3714	250	2671	~10.684	1043

Ability	Cost	Base mana cost
Firebolt	115	~14%
Fire Shield	210	~26%
Consume Shadows	595	~57%
Sacrifice	669 (health)	~23% (of base health)
Suffering	305	~29%
Torment	110	~10.5%
Lash of Pain	160	~15%
Lesser Invisibility	100	~9.5%
Seduction	605	~58%
Soothing Kiss	100	~9.5%
Devour Magic	270	~26%
Shadow Bite	75	~7%
Spell Lock	200	~19.5%
Anguish	110	~10.5%
Cleave	252	~24%
Intercept	160	~15%

I just noticed that many warlock ability costs are out of date. While calculating the costs based on base mana, I noticed that warlock minions don't gain as much health or mana from stamina and intellect as player characters. Here are the results of my calculations. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 03:57, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it seems that minion abilities still have fixed, rank-based mana costs. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 04:49, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

After Corfen's recent edits, I did some checking and noticed that the inheritance information from warlocks' stamina tooltips and the bonus health and mana from minions' stamina and intellect tooltips are inaccurate. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 03:49, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, after further testing and calculations, it seems that, although the stamina inheritance tooltip is inaccurate, the health from stamina and mana from intellect tooltips are correct. Minions only get 1 mana per point of base intellect, and don't get any health from their base stamina. Corfen's values are correct for health from bonus stamina and mana from bonus intellect. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 03:16, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Genders

I don't see this happening anymore... before it would have just been 5 demons to worry about genders, with the ability in 5.0 to change demons to more powerful demons, they'd have to do genders for 10 for a purely cosmetic reason... oh well, would have been interesting to see a pink void walker lol. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 07:06, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

I think we would only see different gender for demons that made sense(voidwalker, infernal and fel hunter make no sense having females)--Ashbear160 (talk) 15:12, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Move suggested

I'm suggesting to move this page to Warlock minion to make it more clearer and make space for the mob type that exists in Mists of Pandaria. Alternatively the page stays and a new article for the mob type is created (although the naming would be trickier). --g0urra[T҂C] 12:12, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

That's ok by me although i think this page really needs to be updated.--Ashbear160 (talk) 13:54, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good, minion is basically a general term anyway, anyone can be a minion. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 00:06, 15 October 2012 (UTC)