Talk:Timeline (World of Warcraft Official Strategy Guide)

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This timeline is presented as was published in World of Warcraft The Official Strategy Guide.

You might notice some inconsistencies such as fate of the Necrolytes, or the fate of Gul'dan, etc. These were directly quoted from the timeline itself, and are presented here for historical and publishing record, and for comparison with other timelines. Please do not try to alter this time line to make it conform to the Timeline (unofficial) or later timelines. That is not the intent of this article. Thanks.Baggins 03:19, 5 January 2007 (EST)

Typo

There is a typo in the year 0.

Lord Lothar leads an exodus of refugees to the northern nation of Lordaeron. Once there, he convinces the leaders of the seven Human nations to unite in arms against the Horde. The seperate nations of the Arathorian empire are reunited as the Alliance of Lordaeron. Through the chaos, Thrall was born. This young Orc was found and captured by humans, and raised as a slave and gladiator.

The underlined word should be spelled separate.   Zurr  T ∙ C 09:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

conflict with Gul'dan log

Gul'dan wrote in his history (present in WC2 manual) that Medivh made telepathic contact with him and two weeks-long gaps happened prior to actually discovering the tiny rift they would widen into the Portal.

This makes it seem like Medivh opened the rift prior to contacting Gul'dan. Is this meant to imply that it just took Gul'dan months to detect the rift perhaps because it was super-small and he was too distracted by his search for Medivh on the astral planes (and the missing Kiljaeden) to look in his backyard? Tycio (talk) 02:27, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

of course a strategy guide published in 2004 (which this article is based on) is in conflict with a game manual published in 1995. the lore is constantly changing, and trying to reconcile every different version of it is an exercise in futility. Eithris (talk) 02:33, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

I think what the writers are referring to as 1 year before WC1 is actually the 3rd communication between Gul'dan and Medhiv:

With Blackhand's ascension to War Chief, order was restored to the Horde. I was visited again by the visage of Medivh, who appeared more in control of his powers, but less in control of his mind. Petitioning the Horde to destroy the kingdom of Azeroth, but to make him ruler of its people, Medivh offered all manners of treasures and baubles to me. I assured him that his world was ours for the taking, and that he held nothing that could persuade the Horde to do his bidding. His face broke into a wicked sneer as he proceeded to show me the image of an ancient tomb upon which was etched the name of the Daemonlord Sargeras. The Tomb of Sargeras! The Daemonlord who had instructed my own tutor Kil'jaeden was entombed upon this pathetic little world! Destiny had chosen to lay the hand upon my shoulders alone, for Kil'jaeden had told me that the lost Tomb contained power absolute - enough to make any who could control it into a living god. Medivh pledged that he would grant me the location of the Tomb if only I would use the Horde to destroy his enemies...

Gul'dan describes Blackhand assuming the war chief role after the failed attack on Stormwind when Cho'gall (ogre) and Kilrogg (1-eyed orc) were bickering over whose fault it was that human cavalry was wrecking them. There's basically a 10 year gap after the Stormwind assault where orcs are lurking in swamps around portal and Gul'dan is manipulating Blackhand to replace Kilrogg/Cho'gall as the Horde figureheads.

I think it's a matter of how we read things here. When it says "opens the Dark Portal" it doesn't really mean this was the creation of the Dark Portal or even the first time it was opened. Mediv/Sargheras did the pinprick (the tiny rift) which Gil'dan widened and used already, so I think this just means that Medivh had been lurking and not doing much for a decade, when suddenly he got back in the game asking the orcs to wipe out the remnants of Stormwind.

Medivh after all was not 36 years old when the Orcs attacked Azeroth: the Sir Lothar logs in the 1st manual make it clear he was born in 559 and "bleak morning" when the hourglass sands run out is in 583, so Medivh would've been ~24 years old at the time, 25 when Llane became king, and 34 when Llane gets a visit from Medivh's mom. Tycio (talk) 02:27, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

again, there's really no point trying to make lore from 1995 fit together with lore from 2004. it's not about "how we read things"; trying to read things in a way that makes it fit together involves far too many assumptions for a wiki. there is of course some amount of assumption necessary, but in general, wikis catalogue things. we don't fit pieces from two different puzzles together with a hammer. Eithris (talk) 03:09, 23 February 2021 (UTC)