Talk:Hordefall

Date

Is there any specific date for anniversary and thus Hordefall? --Rowaasr13 11:34, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, no there isn't. Not even general time of the year it is celebrated.Baggins 11:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

And they call the Horde barbaric? Zarnks 20:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

For incinerating small dolls? That truly is evil! User:Kirkburn/Sig3 21:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

For encouraging violence against Orcs and preserving ancient hatreds. They are continueing the cycle of hatred between the Horde and Alliance. Zarnks 21:05, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

All that from a single sentence mentioning the burning of dolls? :) Lands of Conflict was written in 2004, so note this is the situation a couple of years before WoW. I agree that is wrong to an extent to be celebrating it in such a fashion, but these people waged two wars against the invading orcs, they have reason to celebrate the ending of such a war. User:Kirkburn/Sig3 21:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Why don't they just celebrate the end of the war? Burning orc dolls just encourages fighting between the Horde and theAlliance. Zarnks

It's just dolls, but I do see your point - it hardly engenders good faith between the sides if you are brought up with such a ritual. User:Kirkburn/Sig3 21:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

First off, let's also point out this isn't an Alliance practice. It is or was practiced by only one Alliance town (most of the Alliance does not practice it), and a former member of the Alliance (Kul Tiras is still not officially part of the Alliance, but an independent nation).

Historically speaking Southshore according to Warcraft II, was a town built during the war. Created as a base to hold back the invading forces from Zul'dare. It was razed by those same forces during the same war. It was apparently rebuilt later, but that sets the background to historical feud with the orcs, and why they would even celebrate victory over the Horde.

As for similar practice in modern times? The horde's practice, or primarily the Forsaken's; of burning a wicker "man" during Hallow's eve?

Anthropologically speaking if anyone is interested in real world cultures, effigy burning can actually mean a number of things including; celebrating previous victories over ones past enemies, cursing ones current enemies (the so-called voodoo doll), honoring ones enemies, honoring the dead, sacrificing the enemy (in place of flesh and blood), and many other reasons.

A modern example of the practice can be found on today of all things. The fourth of july, or independence day. Where Americans burn fireworks, to many represent the weapons using during the two wars of Indepence. In some towns, as I recall reading, it was once (or may still be) a practice of burning a wicker British soldier or flags to represent the victories over the british.Baggins 15:42, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah and besides burning things is always fun. >:) Mr.X8 21:14, 7 October 2007 (UTC)