Talk:A Thousand Years of War

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1. Mention of the Void-spawn. Collective name for the void races? Worth creating a page for it?
2. "The inquisitor had been so confident that he had not brought guards, nor had he summoned any guardian eyes" Guardian eyes, name for the eye mobs in the game?
3. Xe'ra mentions the Beginning. The creation of the universe?
4. The nathrezim were enslaved by the Legion. That's a new thingy, yes?
5. "After spending so much time in the Twisting Nether, they had learned how to keep their orientation without sun, stars, or landmarks to guide them." No stars and suns in the Nether? --Mordecay (talk) 21:43, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

4. Nathrezim have been enslaved from the beginning. "Kil'jaeden's first move was to enslave the vampiric Dreadlords under his terrible power." (WC3 manual) --Aquamonkeyeg (talk) 23:50, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Demonic lore in the Warcraft III is completely outdated since the reveal of the background of the eredar and Sargeras, but in this case I think the nathrezim were already corrupting demons when they were enslaved into serving the Legion.Xporc (talk) 07:25, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Guardian eyes and void-spawn sounds OK for pages. Xporc (talk) 07:25, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

2 - The eyes are also called "Oculus" (with a capital O) in Azsuna.

3 - The Beginning, yup. She also seems to call it the "great ordering of the cosmos" in the Light's Heart questline.

4 - Technically all demons were enslaved. Sargeras offered them only two 'choices' : serve him and become his Legion, or get rekt. Ulthalesh and his gang got rekt.

5 - As for stars & suns, they do exist in the Nether, Illidan saw them in the novel. However the Nether is supposed to be near incomprehensible for the mortal minds, everyone sees it differently which could explain that line, plus it is extremely confusing to try and make sense of concepts such as time, or space, there. -- MyMindWontQuiet 13:03, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Loreology explained that because the Nether bleeds into the physical universe, the objects we see from there are most likely far away worlds in the physical universe. --Aquamonkeyeg (talk) 15:22, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

2 - By "Oculus" u meant Felshade Oculus? --Mordecay (talk) 23:30, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

No just Oculus, it was during the quest where you interrogate that inquisitor imprisoned in one of 3 soul shards by Allari at Illidari Stand in Azsuna, can't look up the name right now unfortunately. - MyMindWontQuiet 23:56, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

 [10-45] The Scythe of Souls? The inquisitor there has the ability "Summon Occulus" that summons the Felshade Oculus. Is that it? --Mordecay (talk) 00:04, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Oh great, another mob with a name that already belongs to a dungeon/already existing mob. Xporc (talk) 07:53, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Hmm yeah I think that's it ! In addition, well I might be misremembering, but I think Allari says "Occulus" too, though it doesn't seem to be in the Quotes section. -- MyMindWontQuiet 15:01, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Sword

Turalyon had one (1-handed it seems) hammer before joining the Army. Then, he "forged a new weapon, a sword imbued with holy power." So yes, "a new weapon" does mean "a new sword". He didn't "reforge his sword", or "forged his sword anew". He forged a new sword. So it's not the Great Royal Sword.

I don't like this either, when he appeared in Legion I automatically thought he had made the Great Royal Sword whole again with Light, but this is not what is stated. - MyMindWontQuiet 19:32, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Honestly, this is too big to be a coincidence. I'd at least leave the speculation, it doesn't hurt anobyody. Xporc (talk) 19:37, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Eh, speculation works. Though there's nothing weird about forging a blade similar to your previous one either. Even though I'd prefer that not be the case myself. MyMindWontQuiet 17:06, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Why are you ignoring the next sentence? A new weapon, "that meant he needed to train relentlessly to master it." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by WhiteLodge (talk · contr).

How does that mean it's the same sword ? That's in fact working against your argument, since he needed to train relentlessly to master it. Because it's a new sword. -- MyMindWontQuiet 17:05, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

For me this is just an oversight on the author's part (or he did not deem it necessary to go into details). The depiction in "Chronicle" showed us that the royal sword was with Turalyon during the expedition. It's pretty obvious that he carried it with him like a memento. So then he lost it on Draenor and then forged an exact replica? With exactly the same broken blade? That's just just downright unnecessary and baffling. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by WhiteLodge (talk · contr).

I think it's a mistake too, but we don't get to dismiss canon information. And yes, it means he must've lost the blade between the moment he crossed the Dark Portal and the moment Draenor exploded. That's not weird. Then he forged a new one that looked like the previous one, it's not really weird either in that there is some precedence for it, Aggramar too has what seems to be another Taeschalach which is half broken/half fire-energy. Even if it were weird (because weird is subjective, I'm not going to ignore your point), it doesn't change the fact that it's, well, a fact. -- MyMindWontQuiet 17:05, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

I agree, but "forging a replica" is not a canon fact either. Maybe after all this years he somehow retrieved the royal sword and reforged it offscreen. Or something like that. So, yeah, I hope Blizzard will clarify this someday. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by WhiteLodge (talk · contr).

Again, I agree with the "maybe's" and I stated my personal preference that he just reforged his old sword, but this is not about me, or you. This is about the wiki, and my point is that this section should keep to facts, and what the audio-drama states. So I'll remove all those suggestions you put there. At best, they should go in the speculations on the royal sword, not in the audio drama's page. -- MyMindWontQuiet 19:16, 2 October 2017 (UTC)