Warcraft Wiki:Writing/ExternalLinks/Thottbot removal vote

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This vote will deal with whether we keep Thottbot in the auto-added Elinks templates ({{Elinks-item}}, {{Elinks-quest}}, {{Elinks-NPC}}...). It will be a simple Keep/Remove vote. Manually added {{elink}} do not count and are always welcome if they fit the policy. The vote is exclusively for the Elinks templates.


Icon-add-48x48.png This proposal was accepted by a winning Yes vote according to Warcraft Wiki Voting policy.
  • Please leave the voting record for historical reasons.


Votes

Keep
  1. Keep Sky (t · c · w) 01:33, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (I'll be the staying voice temporarily; I much prefer tb to alla (wowhead > all) mostly because tb loads much faster, which is usually what is most important to me)
  2. Keep Sharlin 06:46, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (fastest loading site, and many comments actually help)
  3. Keep Shirik 08:00, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (The first site I ever used, and I still use it regularly. While it may have some... odd information, all you need to do is be careful and mentally filter while reading comments and you can get what you need)
  4. Keep GRYPHONtc 12:34, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (The Wiki community has clearly used Thott as the most popular source for information.)
  5. Keep Dracomage 13:29, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (Old favourite. Still very good source of information, although might get contaminated with junk.)
  6. Keep User:Kitan/Sig 15:00, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (This is my favorite site as well. I use it often.)
  7. Keep --Mikaka 03:22, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (While I prefer WoWHead, Thottbot is very useful for older quests that other databases don't have comments on. In addition, as it requires no effort on the part of the editor to include tb links, why should we remove them? (correct me if i'm wrong on that point))
  8. Keep Mlucero 11:30, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (We all know thottbot's numerous faults, but I don't think the general readership (myself included) will be pleased with it being removed.)
  9. Keep User:Kirkburn/Sig2 16:32, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (Popularity wins)
  10. Keep Tachwedd 11:48, 11 April 2007 (EDT) - (Often has helpful comments or info other sites just don't have, by virtue of it being older/more popular at one time, especially for lowbie/older material)
  11. Keep User:SeiferTim/Sig 12:26, 11 April 2007 (EDT) - (no comment)
  12. Keep User:DuTempete/Signature 18:55, 11 April 2007 (EDT) - (no comment)
  13. Keep Bobson 16:28, 12 April 2007 (EDT) - (I think everything ought to be linked. Maybe we emphasise one (put the others in smaller text, for instance), but it's not our place to decide for users where they want to go for extra information.)
  14. Keep SWM2448 17:33, 13 April 2007 (EDT) - (no comment)-(They have the most comprehensive item search in my opinion.)
Remove
  1. Remove Pyroshen 17:06, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (I'd rate this 2nd, after wowhead. It's much better than the others but not as good as wowhead. Full of useless comments, terrible filtering, etc)
  2. Remove User:Adys/Sig 21:41, 8 April 2007 (EDT) - ()
  3. Remove Normal 22:15, 8 April 2007 (EDT) - (no comment)
  4. Remove User:Tekkub/Sig 22:17, 8 April 2007 (EDT) - (no comment)
  5. Remove Shadow 22:50, 8 April 2007 (EDT) - (no comment)
  6. Remove Mikk (T) 07:39, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (Thottbot is without comparison the WoW db site with the most bogus information since old, bad, info is never flushed from the db)
  7. Remove Pinky84 14:24, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (no comment)
  8. Remove Tribunal 16:35, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (Thottbot is full of trojans, keyloggers, owned by IGE. Don't support them!)
  9. Remove InfinityX 03:02, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (Thottbot is almost always slow, hard on the eyes, saturated with unfiltered worthless comments and off-topic discussion, and not well maintained in comparison to Wowhead.)
  10. Remove Malus 08:09, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (It has some nice features that stand out but other than that it's garbage. The creater hasn't really put much work into it. There are better choices.)
  11. Remove Rorus Raz 17:41, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (Rarely cleaned up or updated, the site becomes a mess of confusing data from old patches and new. Commentary is also a similar jumble of new and old. Not to mention the lack of moderation allows for comment to devolve into flame wars.)
  12. Remove Malusz 15:29, 11 April 2007 (EDT) - (By principle external links should be removed where internal references are sufficient. Nothing against Thott. I'm a regular user.)
  13. Remove Storming 15:35, 11 April 2007 (EDT) - (no comment)
  14. Remove Reskar 15:48, 11 April 2007 (EDT) - (tons of bogus data, filled with flames and spam, you really need to work hard to find useful stuff on this site.)
  15. Remove  D ♠ T ♣ C ♦  16:52, 11 April 2007 (EDT) - (no comment)
  16. Remove JohnLo 17:21, 13 April 2007 (EDT) - (no comment)
  17. Remove Colinstu 17:02, 14 April 2007 (EDT) - (Full of spam and crap, I only use it to look up weird spells, this is not needed on WoWWiki)
  18. Remove User:Matt646 - (17:14, 15 April 2007 (EDT))
  19. Remove Boblo-WW 08:45, 16 April 2007 (EDT) - (Although it is a vast archive of legacy content, the wowwiki community should be spared thottbots gold ads and browser exploits.)

Comments

Removed remove vote, was only just made aware they use in game itemid's. While thottbot loads quick and has a large amount of information, it also has the most trolls / useless comments. I usually only check thott bot as a last resort. --User:Psyker7/Sig 05:47, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

Tribunal.....trojans? keyloggers? Wow...just wow... and your only contribution are votes on these elinks proposals, highly suspect with such false slander. --GRYPHONtc 17:13, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

Well being owned by IGE is probably the first reason I would use to remove them but I like the information on that site, both for the old beta days and current. Calling them out of date is like the kettle and pot, WOWWIKI has too many faults for old data to be calling any other site out of date. Sharlin 09:05, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

Abstaining. I'm not at all fond of the site (owned by gold sellers, ads tend to compromise poorly-secured browsers, low signal-to-noise ratio in gathered data, poor searching)... but having been the first WoW DB site to exist (or close to it, at least), many folks still consider it the canonical reference. User:Fizzwidget/Signature 15:30, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

Thottbot had a more efficient format for me with NoScript and Privoxy, but Thott sold out long ago and nobody maintains the site. I asked him personally why everything DEs into Clam Meat, his response was, "lol, isn't that great?". I've been using Wowhead for everything except the rare search for item models. Boblo-WW 08:45, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

The DE information seems to have been hidden. Regardless, a dirty database is still dirty, even if you sweep the dirtiest part under a rug. User:Tekkub/Sig 16:03, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

Promised I wouldn't comment on this, since I'm adding this after the vote ended (sadly). But I find it ironic that some of the "remove" votes want Thott removed for gold ads... when I'm seeing a gold ad in the left column here. --Eirik Ratcatcher 13:30, 26 April 2007 (EDT)


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